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alavuk 08-01-2009 05:35 PM

Florian Schneider
 
Florian Schneider leaves Kraftwerk after a 40 years
partnership with Ralf H?tter.

This partnership has generated an incredible
music and huge advances in music technology.

Florian is a great musician, always seeking
the perfect sound through technology. Refined
and perfected sounds and vocoders to impossible
levels of perfection.

Our thanks for the state of art that led to
Kraftwerk's music all these years.

And our wishes for success Florian's new
projects as well as to this new Kraftwerk.

izvor :

http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br

DaBear 09-01-2009 02:10 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alavuk (Post 230602)
Florian Schneider leaves Kraftwerk after a 40 years
partnership with Ralf H?tter.

This partnership has generated an incredible
music and huge advances in music technology.

Florian is a great musician, always seeking
the perfect sound through technology. Refined
and perfected sounds and vocoders to impossible
levels of perfection.

Our thanks for the state of art that led to
Kraftwerk's music all these years.

And our wishes for success Florian's new
projects as well as to this new Kraftwerk.

izvor :

http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br


ma nista strasno...zamenice ih sa nekim od onih lutki / robota sto su koristili pre!
Niko nece nista da primeti ionako....a sto se tice sviranja, i tu isto - ionako sve ide sa trake / omputera / sequencera..

awacs 09-01-2009 02:41 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
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Originally Posted by DaBear (Post 230688)
ma nista strasno...zamenice ih sa nekim od onih lutki / robota sto su koristili pre!
Niko nece nista da primeti ionako....a sto se tice sviranja, i tu isto - ionako sve ide sa trake / omputera / sequencera..

Mogao bi Schwarzenegger da ga zameni, to bi bilo dobro osve?enje - tri "normalna" robota i jedan veeeliki. Kakav glas ima, čak mu ni vokoder ne bi bio nu?an. A engleski izgovor mu je savr?en :D

alavuk 09-01-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
@ dabear ti me bas ...

elem necu da "pruzam dokaze" nego cu samo pitati zasto ce profesorima muzike kompjuter i sekvencer da svira umesto njih ??? ja sam licno video a i na youtube-u gomilu njihovih gresaka tokom kocerata

DaBear 11-01-2009 03:36 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
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Originally Posted by alavuk (Post 230708)
@ dabear ti me bas ...

elem necu da "pruzam dokaze" nego cu samo pitati zasto ce profesorima muzike kompjuter i sekvencer da svira umesto njih ??? ja sam licno video a i na youtube-u gomilu njihovih gresaka tokom kocerata


pa njihove "lead melodijce" nije tesko svirati uzivo i oni to i rade (i grese) ali sigurno niko ne svira uzivo bas linije (kojih ima tona), polifone staccato akorde i bubnjeve ili sve sto ide ritmicki kroz celu pesmu.

kad malo izanaliziras nema tu mnogo stvari koje idu u pesmi...svako ima po nesto da udari svremena na vreme..neki sum / noize, neko radi malo na padovima a neko na melodijcama...a 85% muzike ide sa sequencera sinhronizovano na video..

pa to valjda nije toliko tesko provaliti...probaj sam da sviras neki bas uz klick ili ritam masinu 3 minuta ili 5..pa zamisli kad svi pocnu malo da se raspadaju..to bi bila havarija.

Od njih niko ni ocekuje da sviraju uzivo - masine to treba da odrade! u tome je ceo njihov koncept!!

alavuk 11-01-2009 03:53 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
jes vala tako kako kazes izanalizirao sam ja njih uzivo u prvom redu na bg koncertu , ipak svi smo bili u sumnji dal je sve masine tj sekvencovano ustvari postizu sve ... svi imaju po pedalu da koriste neki efekat ili menjanje patterna , mislim da je malo smesno pricati da sekvenceri sve odrade jer su oni snimali sve uzivo do albuma electric caffe kad je vecina benda izvrsio pritisak na ralfa da predju na midi ....

1ucid 11-01-2009 04:04 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
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probaj sam da sviras neki bas uz klick ili ritam masinu 3 minuta ili 5..pa zamisli kad svi pocnu malo da se raspadaju..to bi bila havarija.
ziva istina...

DaBear 11-01-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alavuk (Post 230865)
jes vala tako kako kazes izanalizirao sam ja njih uzivo u prvom redu na bg koncertu , ipak svi smo bili u sumnji dal je sve masine tj sekvencovano ustvari postizu sve ... svi imaju po pedalu da koriste neki efekat ili menjanje patterna , mislim da je malo smesno pricati da sekvenceri sve odrade jer su oni snimali sve uzivo do albuma electric caffe kad je vecina benda izvrsio pritisak na ralfa da predju na midi ....

vidi se da si mlad... bilo je sequencera i pre MIDI-ja..he,he..

mono sequenceri, CV/GATE, step sequenceri,razni "trigger aranzmani" - ljudi su se dovijali!

mi smo svojevremeno programirali trigger koji je okidao note na sintiju a mi "real time" udarali dirke / menjali note i zvucalo ko pravi sequencer!!



kraftwerk sequenceri - late 70's

- 2 "Synthanorma" 16-step custom-built analogue sequencers built by Matten & Wiechers; Dirk Matten said that there were "2 rows of switches, one for semi-tones, one for octaves"

- Triggersumme (a precursor of the Simmons SDS-6, a Matrix of 5x32 clocked switches which allowed Wolfgang Fl?r to program patterns of 2x16 or 1x32 steps, controlling either the Simmons SDS-5 or other rhythm units)

The 1981 Computer World tour included:

- a Sequential Circuits Prophet 5 synthesiser
- a Moog Minimoog synthesiser
- a Moog Polymoog synthesiser
- Texas Instruments Language Translator machine (for electronic voices, it has different language memory cards)
- Roland MC8 MicroComposer sequencer (although this was not used on any Kraftwerk records)
- Custom-built 32-step analogue sequencers by Matten & Wiechers
- Texas Instruments Pocket Translator
- Dubreq Stylophone (this is a small handheld 'synth' made in the 1960s, which operated via a stylus touching a metal keyboard, the original versions could not switch octaves; for the sounds of Pocket Calculator)
- Mattel BEEGEE mini keyboard



http://kraftwerkfaq.hu/equipment.html ima ovde svasta, ko hoce da cita....

silicon science 11-01-2009 04:29 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
Evo upravo slusam Minimum maximum live i ko dan je jasno da sviraju sekvenceri, nema dileme... Chak i ako trigeruju paterne opet su to gotove sekvence koje su usinkane :wink:

puRe 11-01-2009 04:39 PM

Re: Florian Schneider
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alavuk (Post 230865)
jes vala tako kako kazes izanalizirao sam ja njih uzivo u prvom redu na bg koncertu , ipak svi smo bili u sumnji dal je sve masine tj sekvencovano ustvari postizu sve ... svi imaju po pedalu da koriste neki efekat ili menjanje patterna , mislim da je malo smesno pricati da sekvenceri sve odrade jer su oni snimali sve uzivo do albuma electric caffe kad je vecina benda izvrsio pritisak na ralfa da predju na midi ....

da, ali ako se dobro secam, samo su dvojica imala klavijature...ostali su bili zaduzeni za efekte i miksanje...mislim da se na minimum maximum dvd-u vidi u jednom trenutku sta imaju ispred sebe...


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