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dadson 11-04-2012 04:47 PM

DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MHz (Post 326750)
Jel ima neko uputstva za tvikovanje standardne sedmice? Voleo bih da ubrzam rad ako ikako mogu..

http://www.focusrite.com/answerbase/...le.php?id=1071

Ima na ovoj stranici jo? toga.

MHz 11-04-2012 05:53 PM

Re: procitajte ko zeli win7 Sp1 sa LOW svega :)
 
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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 326777)
O nekim tweeak-ovanjima je razbacanim stilom pisalo po forumu, pogledaj. Ja se vec neko vreme nakanjujem da okacim jedan kompletan post o tome, samo da uhvatim malo daha, bice ovih dana.:wink:

Super, ako te ne bude mrzelo.. Okačio sam fajl sa tvikovima koje sam na?ao na netu, ali jo? uvek nisam stigao da ih odradim, ako nekoga zanima.. U nedelju ću poku?ati pa mogu javiti utiske.

Khan 11-04-2012 11:39 PM

DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Mislim da je na osnovu brojnih zahteva, zgodno da se optimizacija windows 7 za DAW
postavi na ovaj nacin. O mnogo cemu je vec polemisano, verovatno nema mnogo potpuno
novih stvari, ali je nekad zgodno imati sve kompilirano na jednom mestu i zbog
step-by-step edukacije za pocetnike, a i kao podsetnik za iskusnije.
Mnogi tweak-ovi koji su za XP ili ranije bili obavezni, sada su nepotrebni, ali
zato ima novih muka, naravno.
Uz poziv da se ovde postuju nova 'otkrica' vezana za fino podesavanje W 7, molim da
se obrati paznja na zastarele, neucinkovite savete kojih je net pun.
Glavnina kuvara, /Khan's cookbook:da:/ je AVID-ova lista, ne zato sto su najbolji ili
zato sto saveti drugih proizvodjaca nevaljaju, vec zato sto su naj univerzalniji za
korisnike i USB i FW interface-a i pokazali su se u praksi kao ucinkoviti na
razlicitim masinama. Naravno, izuzetan tim inzenjera koji poznaju W7 bolje od bilo
koga iz micro$ofta.
Potrebni sastojci:
01. Ispravan hardware, po mogucstvu probran za ovakvu vrstu posla
02. Ispravno instaliran W7
03. Update-ovani driver-i.
/Sto se BIOS-a tice, generalna je preporuka:'ne pipaj, ako radi.' flash samo ako
mora, zbog krucijalnih gresaka proizvodjaca. Vecina ljudi svejedno ne zna da uradi
ispravno proceduru, pa se sokiraju kada im prvi put nestane struje...
04. Tweak!
(...samo bez religioznog fanatizma, naravno da ne morate iskljuciti net, ako vam je
to jedina masina i tome sl.)
***********************
Windows 7 Optimizations and Troubleshooting.

Pro Tools can be affected by system settings and other software and hardware drives installed on your computer. For best possible performance, it is recommended that you do the following:
Optimizations
Required Optimizations
Run as Administrator
Disable Desktop Composition
Disable System Startup Items
Hard Disk Optimizations
Turn Off User Account Control
Adjust Power Options
Enable Legacy FireWire Controller (FireWire interfaces only)
Install Latest Device Drivers (Pro Tools 9 only)
Optional Optimizations
Adjust Processor Scheduling
Disable Screen Saver
Display Performance
Disable USB Power Management (USB interfaces only)
Troubleshooting
Delete Digidesign Databases and Preferences
Disable Network Adapters
Install iLok / PACE drivers
Create a New User Account
Enable DEP
Other Configurations


Run as Administrator
This can help with various launch issues as well as a variety of MIDI issues (i.e., no MIDI output or HUI communication) and using the Digidesign hardware driver in third-party DAWs.
Right-click on the Pro Tools icon on your desktop.
If using a third-party DAW, click on that application's icon instead.
Choose Properties.
Click on the Compatibility tab.
Check the box that says ?Run this program as an administrator?.
Click Apply and then OK.
Disable Desktop Composition
This optimization will disable Windows Aero and force the computer to run the Windows Basic theme only while Pro Tools is running, allowing the computer to not perform complex graphic processing during Pro Tools operation. This can help resolve pops and clicks during playback and record, as well as optimize the system further for use with Pro Tools.
Right-click on the Pro Tools icon on your desktop or Start menu.
Choose Properties.
Click on the Compatibility tab.
Check the box that says "Disable desktop composition".
Click Apply and then OK.
Upon launching Pro Tools, you will get a notification at the bottom of your screen telling you that the graphic theme has changed. Click on that message and then check "Don't show this message" to prevent this message from popping up every time you launch Pro Tools.
Watch the tutorial video on YouTube or Vimeo
Disable System Startup Items
In addition to freeing up system resources, this can resolve conflicts with other applications that automatically start up with your computer.

Hold down the Windows key on your keyboard (or Start menu button) and press the letter "R" to open up the Run dialog.
Type msconfig and click OK.
The System Configuration Utility opens. Under the General tab, choose Selective Startup.
Deselect Load Startup Items.
Go to the Services tab and choose the option to Hide All Microsoft Services.
Click Disable All.
Click on the column labeled Manufacturer to sort items by manufacturer.
Locate all items with Avid/Digidesign/M-Audio/PACE listed as the manufacturer.
Check them and click Apply.
Close the System Configuration Utility.
Click Restart to restart the computer.
You can revert to the original settings by running "msconfig" and choosing Normal Startup.
To add the 'Run...' dialog to your Start menu:
Right-click on your Windows taskbar and choose Properties.
Click on the Start Menu tab.
Click on Customize.
Scroll down until you find 'Run command' and select it.
Click OK.

Khan 11-04-2012 11:41 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part II

Hard Disk Optimizations
This optimization allows your hard drive to work more efficiently when recording and playing back audio files, and can sometimes resolve DAE Error -9073.
Open the Start menu and click on Computer
Right-click on your C: drive
Choose Properties
Uncheck 'Compress this drive to save disk space'
Uncheck 'Allow files on this drive to have contents indexed...'
Click Apply and then OK
Turn off User Account Control
Turning off UAC can help with the “Session must be on an audio record volume” error and various issues with launching Pro Tools.
Open the Start menu and then click on 'Control Panel'.
In Large icon View, click User Accounts.
Click on 'Change User Account Control Settings'.
Set it to 'Never notify'.
Click OK.
Restart the computer.
Adjust Power Options
This optimization prevents the computer from going into Sleep Mode, which can cause playback issues with the audio interface and its driver, as well disabling USB Selective Suspend, which can cause pops and clicks during record and playback with USB interfaces.
Open the Start menu and then click on 'Control Panel'.
In Large icon View, click on Power Options.
Select the 'High Performance' power plan. Click on the 'Change plan settings' link.
Set the display's sleep time to Never.
Set the computer's sleep time to Never.
Click on the 'Change advanced power settings' link.
Click on the '+' sign next to Hard Disk.
Click on the '+' sign next to Turn Off Hard Disk After.
Select the default; the text entry field will now be accessible.
In the text entry field, type Never.
Click on the '+' sign next to 'USB settings'.
Click on the '+' sign next to 'USB selective suspend setting'.
Double-click where it says Enabled and click on Disabled.
Click Apply then OK.
Click Save Changes.
Close the Power Options window.
Watch the tutorial video on YouTube or Vimeo
Enable Legacy FireWire Controller (FireWire interfaces only)
This optimization will change the FireWire controller on your system to the legacy controller previously used on Windows XP and Vista. In many cases, the legacy controller improves FireWire performance on Windows 7 and can resolve many Pro Tools issues such as DAE errors, freezes, and pops and clicks.
Open the Start menu. Right-click on Computer and choose Properties.
Click on Device Manager in the upper left corner.
In the Device Manager window, double-click on IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers.
Double-click on the controller (or port) that your FireWire interface is connected to.
Click on the Driver tab.
Click on Update Driver.
Choose 'Browse my computer for driver software'.
Choose 'Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer'.
Choose '1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy)'.
Restart the computer.
Install Latest Device Drivers (Pro Tools 9 only)
It is always important to install the latest drivers available for your audio interface to ensure maximum compatibility with Pro Tools.
If you have an Avid/Digidesign interface, visit www.avid.com/drivers to download the latest drivers that are compatible with Pro Tools 9.
For third-party interfaces, visit the manufacturer's website to download the latest drivers available for your audio interface.
Adjust Processor Scheduling
This optimization allows the computer to run Pro Tools more effeciently.
Click on the Start Menu, right-click on Computer.
Choose Properties.
Choose 'Advanced System Settings'.
Under the Performance section, click the Settings button.
In the Performance Options window, click the Advanced tab.
Under the Processor Scheduling section, select the Background Services option.
Hit Apply and then OK to close the Performance Options window.
Click OK to close the System Properties window.
Restart the computer for the changes to take effect.
Disabling Screen Saver
This optimization will prevent your screen saver from being enabled. An error may occur if the screen saver is enabled while Pro Tools is open.
Right-click on the Desktop and select Personalize.
Click on Screen Saver.
In the Screen Saver menu, select None and click OK.
Display Performance
This optimization frees up system resources on your computer.
Click on the Start Menu, right-click on Computer.
Choose Properties.
On the left side of the screen, click on Advanced System Settings.
Under Performance, click on Settings.
Choose the option to 'Adjust For Best Performance'.
Hit Apply and then OK.
Disable USB Power Management (USB interfaces only)
This optimization frees up bandwidth in the USB bus and can help resolve problems with device recognition and driver installation
Open the Start menu. Right-click on Computer and choose Properties.
Click on Device Manager in the upper left corner.
In the Device Manager window, double-click on Universal Serial Bus Controllers.
Double-click on the first USB Root Hub item.
Click on the Power Management tab.
Uncheck the box that says 'Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power.' and click OK.
Repeat this process for all other USB Root Hub items.
Delete Digidesign Databases and Preferences
To delete Digidesign Database folders for all hard drives in Windows 7:
Go to your Start menu and click on Computer.
Double-click on the C: drive.
Double-click on Program Files.
Go to the Digidesign folder.
Go to the Pro Tools folder.
Right-click on the Databases folder and delete it.
NOTE: If you are using Pro Tools HD, DV Toolkit 2 or Complete Production Toolkit, you will want to backup your Catalogs folder before deleting the Databases folder.
To delete Pro Tools preference files in Windows 7:
Go to your Start menu and click on Computer.
Double-click on the C: drive.
Double-click on Program Files.
Go to the Common Files folder.
Go to the Digidesign folder.
Go to the DAE folder.
Right-click on the DAE Prefs folder and delete it.
Go back to your C: drive.
Double-click on Users.
Double-click on your user name.
Go to the AppData folder.
NOTE: If the Appdata is not showing, click on Organize and choose 'Folder and Search Options'.
Click on the View tab.
Select 'Show Hidden Files and Folders'.
Click Apply and OK. AppData should now be viewable.
Go to the Roaming folder.
Right-click on the Digidesign folder and delete it.

Khan 11-04-2012 11:43 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part III

Disable Network Adapters
In addition to freeing up system resources, disabling network adapters can sometimes alleviate DAE Errors -6085 and -6086.

Open the Start menu. Right-click on Computer and choose Properties.
Click on Device Manager in the upper left corner.
In the Device Manager window, double-click Network adapters, then double-click the Network Adapter card you want to disable.
Under the Driver tab, choose Disable, and click OK.
Close the Computer Management window.
Install iLok / PACE drivers
Having up-to-date iLok drivers can help with any iLok/PACE related errors while launching or installing Pro Tools. It is also a good idea to update drivers if you are having any authorization problems with any iLok-authorized plug-ins.

Download the latest iLok/PACE driver for Windows 7 by clicking here.
Run the downloaded DriverSetup.exe file.
If a Securing Warning window pops up, click Run.
The file will go through a short extraction process.
When the InstallShield Wizard pops up, click Next.
Wait for the installation to complete.
Restart the computer when prompted to do so.
Create a New User Account
This can be useful if there are conflicting or corrupt user preferences that are causing Pro Tools to be problematic. In many cases, it is extremely difficult to pinpoint what exactly is causing the problem due to the number of applications installed on the system. In these cases, creating a new user account will be free of these conflicting preferences and allow Pro Tools to run without conflicts.
Open the Start menu and click on 'Control Panel'.
In Category view, click on 'Add or remove user accounts' which can be found under 'User Accounts and Family Safety'.
Click on 'Create a new account'.
Type a name for the account.
Choose Administrator for the type of account.
Click on Create Account.
To log into the new user account:
Press ctrl+alt+delete.
Choose Log off.
Choose the new account that you just created.
Launch Pro Tools from the Start menu.
Enable DEP
This troubleshoot can sometimes help resolve issues with installing and launching Pro Tools software. If you have disabled this for any reason, it is often recommended to re-enable it.

Open the Start menu and type "cmd" (without the quotations). The Result you get should be "cmd.exe".
Right-click on "cmd.exe" and choose "Run as administrator".
Click the Allow button if it asks you for permission.
Type or copy & paste this into the command prompt window: bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx OptIn
Hit enter and you should see the confirmation: Operation Completed Successfully.
Restart the computer and DEP should be on for the entire system.
Other Configurations
Avoid connecting Digidesign interfaces to USB/FireWire hubs.
Avoid running any unneeded programs at the same time as Pro Tools.
Turn off any software utilities that run in the background, such as Windows Messenger, calendars, and disk maintenance programs. See Disabling System Startup Items above.
Turn off any non-essential USB devices while running Pro Tools.
If your video display card supports it, enable Bus Mastering in the manufacturer’s Control Panel.
Disable Turbo Boost and C-State Transition (BIOS)
These settings are not available on all computers, but it is very important to disable them if possible. Turbo Boost and C-State Transition affect the way the clock speed of the processor is managed. When either of these are enabled, the processor will dynamically change speeds depending on computing activity, and this throttling will generally cause errors in Pro Tools. You will need to access your computer's BIOS setup to change these settings.

Consult your computer or motherboard manufacturer to determine if either of these settings are available on your system, and learn how to disable them if so.
critical tweek for DAW systems running on windows 7
The setting in the 1st post of this thread [ and the regedit it " replaces " in the cross-referenced thread ] is solely to disable CPU Core Parking in Win 7 for quad-core DAW's. "It only applies to Windows 7 X64 and X32 and only in systems using more than 2 physicial CPU's and/or more than 2 "logical" cores - ie: Core i5, i7 DAW's. "
- Go to Regedit
- Find this key:- " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583 "
- Within this key, there is a value called: " ValueMax "
- This value represents the % number of cores the system will park - the default 100% ie: all Cores are potentially park-able
- Change the value from 64 to 0 so the " ValueMin " and " ValueMax " are both zero
- You will have to find the key a few times and repeat the process for each time it is found - the number of instances will depend on the number of power profiles in your system [ in my DAW it was only found twice ]
- Do a full shutdown and power-off and cold-re-start
Target /root/
Ako i vas nervira default windows explorer putanja i hocete da vam otvara ‘computer’
%windir%\explorer.exe /n,::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}
God – Mode
Skrivena windows podesavanja, sve na jednom mestu, kao super-control panel.
Bilo gde na disku napravite novi folder i reimenujte sa sledecim:
God-Mode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}

ZeleniZub 17-04-2012 09:10 AM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Evo da i ja dam mali doprinos ovoj odličnoj i korisnoj temi.
Kada sam prelazio na ssd malo sam tra?io po netu korisne hintove, pa sam nabasao i na ovo:

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...mp-Utilities-*

Mislim da će biti zanimljivo ?tivo mnogima. Sretno!

Khan 18-04-2012 02:40 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Prebacujem vec postovane priloge od Dadsona i MHz iz druge teme. Eno ih na vrhu.

DADDY Z 29-04-2012 11:10 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
evo naleteh i ja na nešto:
Quote:

1. How do I optimize Windows 7 for audio? [top]
a) Roll back to the Win7 legacy FireWire driver:

Go to: Start >Control Panel >System and Security>System>Device Manager

Expand "IEEE 1394 Bus host controllers"

Select your IEEE 1394 (FireWire) controller

Click on the icon "Update Driver Software" at the top.

Select "Browse my computer for driver software"

Select "Let me pick..."

Select "1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller (Legacy)"

Choose Next and it will install.
b) Set your computer's power for high performance:

The CPU may not be running at full speed all of the time. This can have a detrimental effect on your computer's audio performance. To set your computer's power for high performance:

Go to: Start >Control Panel >System and Security>Power Options

Create a Power Plan>High Performance

Choose "High Performance"

Click the "Change plan settings" button.

Make sure both power options are set to "Never"
c) Disable system sounds

System sounds can interrupt audio. Make sure that they are disabled by doing the following:

Go to: Start >Control Panel >Hardware and Sound>Sound

Go to the "Sounds" tab

Under "Sounds scheme" select "No sounds"

Uncheck "Play Windows Startup sound" if checked

Click "Apply" then "OK"
d) Enable DMA (Direct memory access) on each IDE channel

This allows data to be transferred directly into the memory and can improve audio performance. To ensure that DMA is enabled:

Go to: Start >Control Panel >System and Security>System>Device Manager

Expand the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers category then double click on each one of the IDE channels

Under the “Advanced settings” tab, make sure the “Enable DMA” box is checked in Device Properties

Please note: this only applies to some hardware and if this option is not available, you should not worry about completing this step.

e) Set processor scheduling to "Background services"

This will improve the performance of your audio drivers on your computer.

Go to: Start >Control Panel >System and Security>System

Go to "Advanced system settings" and select "Settings" under "Performance"

Choose the "Advanced" tab

Set processor scheduling as "Background Services"

Click "Apply" then "OK"
f) Disable Windows Firewall, anti-virus and spyware software

Disabling Windows Firewall, anti-virus and spyware software ensures that no interference will occur during audio recording or playback and also ensures that the maximum resources are available.

Note: To remain secure while your firewall and anti-virus software are disabled, it is strongly recommended that you temporarily disconnect from any internet connections when working with audio. Don't forget to turn it back on when you want to browse the internet.
g) Disable Visual effects

The visual features in Windows 7 can use resources that could otherwise help to improve audio performance. It's good idea to disable some of the visual features by doing the following:

Click on “Start” and in the “Search “ box type: "SystemPropertiesPerformance" and press "Enter"

On the visual effects tab select "Custom"

Un-check: "Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing" to help prevent glitches when minimizing and maximizing.

You can also experiment with disabling other visual effects in the custom list to see how they might improve audio performance.

Once finished, press "OK"

If you wish to optimize your Windows 7 graphics for the best performance click on "Adjust for best performance". While this will improve computer performance, it should be noted that Windows 7 will appear a lot less aesthetically pleasing.
h) Disable Windows services and third-party devices:

One way in which you can free up valuable resources in order to improve audio performance is to disable unnecessary Windows 7 services:

Go to: Start>Control Panel>System and Security>Administrative Tools and select “Services“

In the “Standard" tab, click at the top of the "Startup type“columnto sort by Automatic, Automatic (Delayed Start), Disabled. or Manual.

Click on the Stop button in the Menu bar to stop a service

After configuring all services that you desire to change, reboot to see the effects of your tweaking.

Note: Do not use “msconfig” to stop services. It basically is "disabling" a service. Use the above procedure and set to "manual" instead for testing purposes.
i) Disable third party devices:

Disabling unnecessary third-party devices can also free up valuable resources and clear up annoying pops and clicks. (See 3. How do I diagnose the cause of pops and clicks? below.)

Go to: Start >Control Panel >System and Security>System>Device Manager

To disable an unessential device right click on it and choose disable

Note: Do not forget to re-enable this device if it is needed at a later time

j) Install the latest BIOS and chipset driver for your motherboard

BIOS: Basic Input/Output System is an electronic set of instructions that a computer uses to successfully start operating. The BIOS is located on a chip inside of the computer and is designed in a way that protects it from disk failure.

You will need to know the manufacturer of your motherboard and what chipset it has. Look at your computer specifications manual or use “Sandra”.

Go to the chipset manufacture's website to download and install the latest chipset driver for your motherboard.
Much of your hardware is built right into the motherboard and depends on the chipset to make it work properly. Installing the proper chipset drivers will improve the performance of your IDE and/or SATA busses, improving data transfer speeds.

Chipset drivers also have a great deal of influence over your systems power saving features. Improper or out-of-date drivers can cause your system to hang on entering or exiting hibernation or sleep mode.

Most popular chipset URLs:

Intel chipset

Via chipset

AMD chipset

Igor 02-06-2012 10:07 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Hej drugari, zanima me da li optimizacijom Windowsa (bilo XP-a ili 7-mice) sam sebi pravim medveđu uslugu u smislu kori?ćenja iste te ma?ine za video produkciju?

Khan 05-06-2012 07:36 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
A, nanjusio si... Ne, naprotiv! Optimizacija za A/V je doslovno ista, od prvog dana. Jedina razlika je sto verovatno koristis besniju video kartu ili dve. Svi problemi oko CPU, FW, USB, HD, etc. su isti i na isti nacin ugrozavaju normalan rad.
Naravno, ima par ekstremnih koraka, koji se preporucuju samo za slabe DAW masine, koje ne mogu sve da izguraju, pa se graficko okruzenje zrtvuje, do odredjene mere, to ces prepoznati i neces ni raditi.

ZeleniZub 06-06-2012 12:02 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Evo i programcic koji sve navedene komplikovane korake optimizacije win 7 za ssd, svodi na samo par klikova.

http://www.elpamsoft.com/?p=SSD-Tweaker

Arthur 07-06-2012 02:33 AM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
el ovo sigurica? probao si? ne mi se reinstalira sistem ako baš ne moram ;)

ZeleniZub 07-06-2012 09:20 AM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Ja ga koristim vec neko vrijeme i nisam imao nikakvih problema.
Ako ti on nije siguran napravi folder na desktopu i imenuj ga ovako:
GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}, potvrdi enterom i usao si u skriveni mod podesavanja Windowsa 7. Tu su apsolutno sva podesavanja za Win 7 na dlanu.:)
Naravno da napomenem da je to samo za one koji znaju sta rade. pozz

Arthur 07-06-2012 06:30 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
a zašto se ovo zove SSD tweaker i pominje SSD diskove u opisu? El ima benefita kad ga koristiš bez SSD diskova?

Arthur 07-06-2012 06:33 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
oprosti, ne čitam detaljno, vidim da ti sve vreme o SSD i pričaš. Zanima me dal postoji ovakav alat za običnu optimizaciju windowsa 7?

Khan 07-06-2012 07:59 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Teoretski bi moglo da se uradi automatsko podesavanje sa jednim click-om, ali...
to bas i ne bi bilo pametno. Koliko god bilo jasno sta koji tweak teoretski radi, previse je nepoznatih: verzija, wi, biosa, revizije, verzije i hardware-a i driver-a, kastomizacije, software koji se koristi, cak i individualni nacin rada, kako predvideti ko DAW koristi samo za DAW, ili mu treba mreza, ili FW ili milion drugih stvari razlicitih na svakoj masini svakog od nas.
Puno korisnika kaze za vrlo proverene tweak-ove da pogorsavaju situaciju i -u pravu su! Ne zato sto su tweak-ovi losi, vec zato sto je nemoguce predvideti ponasanje u ovako slozenom sastavu u potpunosti i za svaku datu situaciju.
Najbolji nacin optimizacije je:
posle svake promene restart, provera ucinka/razlike (ako je ima), pa tek onda dalje po listi.
Za vlastitu masinu posle prve ovakve test voznje moze se sastaviti 'cook book' koji ce biti savrsen za tu masinu, ali za neku drugu, najbolje je proci torturu ponovo.

ZeleniZub 08-06-2012 09:06 AM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Upravo tako, za svaku masinu druga prica, ali postoji jedan program koji na najbezbolniji nacin radi jako dobre stvari, Tune up 2012.Mozda nije klasicna optimizacija ali ima nekih cool opcija.Brine se o registriju, hard disku, programima koji se podizu sa sistemom itd. da sada ne nabrajam.

Igor 13-06-2012 07:20 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Instalira? proverene hepeke na prethodno formatirani disk, i ?ta ima da brlja? po registry-ju? Čim dođe do CC cleanera i ostalih bakrača, znači pi?i propalo.

Khan 14-06-2012 11:04 AM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Igor (Post 329878)
Instaliraš proverene hepeke na prethodno formatirani disk, i šta ima da brljaš po registry-ju? Čim dođe do CC cleanera i ostalih bakrača, znači piši propalo.

+1, slazem se, nazalost, obicno je tako u praksi.

66musicman 15-06-2012 02:48 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Windows 7 Manager the best

tomycrosound 16-06-2012 12:16 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Services-i koji su aktivni po paljenju pc su na listi.
Molio bih da netko ka?e ?to od toga mogu stopirati?
Hvala.
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SumAnuT 16-06-2012 12:29 PM

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Opet zavisi, da li ti komp izlazi na net, da li je umrezen, sta jos radis sa njime, da li imas stampac, ili se on samo i iskljucivo koristi za produkciju, kao u recimo nekom studiju, znaci upale komp upale sequencer i to je to, nista drugo se ne radi na kompu?

tomycrosound 16-06-2012 08:26 PM

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izlazi na net wirelessom, koristim za nekakvu video, photo i audio produkciju, te klasično surfanje. Msn po potrebi.

branoy 16-06-2012 10:21 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
kad imas jaku masinu sve to sto vi radite i ovde navodite je nepotrebno, ja u zivotu od kad sam na intel-quadu nisam nista od ovog uradio ni na jednom windowsu nit bilo cemu jer sve leti i onako.. dok sam imao pentium 4 sve sam ovo uradio gore po brojevima da bi rezultat bio na kraju da jedan malo jaci VSTi sva ta podesavanja pojede ALL!! et pa vi vidte sta vam je cinit. il menjat masinu il twikovat do zore.ozb. danas bar kompovi nisu skupi a jaci su od onih pre 10 god za iste pare 10X.

tomycrosound 17-06-2012 12:35 AM

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u mom slučaju radi se o i5 proc, 16gb, radi zadovoljavajuće, ali ne "leti".
Tweakovan je, nepotrebne stvari uklonjene, ali nije to - to.
Drugi, dual core komp kojeg koristi uglavnom supruga je daleko startniji i usuđujem se reć da leti. Npr chrome otvara u 1 sec, dok na mom treba 3sec. To su sitnarije koje su počele da ?ivciraju.
Postoji li tweak za ubrzavanje PRA?NJENJA ram memorije?
Bilo da se radi o cubaseu ili nekom drugom programu, primjećujem kako mu treba neko vrijeme (ovisno o programu) da ga isključi tj isprazni iz ram memorije. Dakle, ?elim da, kad kliknem X, nestane u roku odmah. Dal je to moguće?
I samo "punjenje" rama nije bogznakako brzo, a radi se o ddr3 1600.
Brijem da bi trebao tra?it bolje hdd.
One performance koje win7 sam mjeri kao, sve su na 7+, osim grafičke koja je 6,2.
E sad jo?, ?to isklj. od onih servisa gore na slici?

Khan 17-06-2012 12:18 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 326795)


Disable System Startup Items
In addition to freeing up system resources, this can resolve conflicts with other applications that automatically start up with your computer.

Hold down the Windows key on your keyboard (or Start menu button) and press the letter "R" to open up the Run dialog.
Type msconfig and click OK.
The System Configuration Utility opens. Under the General tab, choose Selective Startup.
Deselect Load Startup Items.
Go to the Services tab and choose the option to Hide All Microsoft Services.
Click Disable All.
Click on the column labeled Manufacturer to sort items by manufacturer.
Locate all items with Avid/Digidesign/M-Audio/PACE listed as the manufacturer.
Check them and click Apply.
Close the System Configuration Utility.
Click Restart to restart the computer.
You can revert to the original settings by running "msconfig" and choosing Normal Startup.
To add the 'Run...' dialog to your Start menu:
Right-click on your Windows taskbar and choose Properties.
Click on the Start Menu tab.
Click on Customize.
Scroll down until you find 'Run command' and select it.
Click OK.

Ovo je vrlo bezbedan pristup, a sve ce ti raditi normalno.

psionic 05-10-2012 07:38 PM

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Ja licno sam protiv tih tweak utility programa. Prvo sto brljaju po registry bazi po sistemu - brisi sta ne treba, a cesto (narocito narodne verzije plaginova) prave keyeve koji naizgled nemaju veze s vezom, a potrebni su da bi "prevarili" sistem. Posle intervencije nekog utility-ja, pola plaginova ne radi, pola ne znaju gde su im preseti i slicno. Dakle big no-no.

Tune up i slicni programi, daju mogucnost izbora, pa nije lose upotrebiti pojedine segmente tipa clean temp files, trash, browsing history... npr u folderu \Users\*username*\AppData\Local\Temp se nakupi nekad i preko 4-5 GB temp fajlova i smeca, koje je potpuno bezbedno brisati. To je po meni u redu koristiti, ali nikako ne njihove "optimizacije" registryja i sistema.

Ja volim da disejblujem servis Windows Search (koji ponekad smara po hard disku nakon duzeg "idlovanja") i SuperFetch, koji puni RAM korisnim i cesto startovanim aplikacijama - da ne bi bezveze stajao neiskoriscen RAM...

Opet cu da ponovim da je dosta bitan tweak - CPU core parking. Ume da izazove glitcheve, puceve (narocito na malim latencijama) i sl. Vec sam postovao ovde neku softversku alatkicu koja proverava status i aktivira/deaktivira core parking. Sve to je vezano za power saving, dakle - power saving - OFF.

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Originally Posted by branoy (Post 330001)
kad imas jaku masinu sve to sto vi radite i ovde navodite je nepotrebno, ja u zivotu od kad sam na intel-quadu nisam nista od ovog uradio ni na jednom windowsu nit bilo cemu jer sve leti

Ovo je donekle ok, ali neki egzoticniji audio drajveri umeju da naprave prilicnu pizdariju kad nalete na nesto sto im se ne svidja... Imao si srecu da ti je sve 100% win7 kompatibilno.

boggy 05-10-2012 11:46 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
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Originally Posted by psionic (Post 334970)
Ja licno sam protiv tih tweak utility programa. Prvo sto brljaju po registry bazi po sistemu - brisi sta ne treba, a cesto (narocito narodne verzije plaginova) prave keyeve koji naizgled nemaju veze s vezom, a potrebni su da bi "prevarili" sistem. Posle intervencije nekog utility-ja, pola plaginova ne radi, pola ne znaju gde su im preseti i slicno. Dakle big no-no.

Potpuno je sumanuto to sada raditi, jer se broj servisa udvostrucio,... a i ne predstavljaju najveci problem kao nekada.
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Originally Posted by psionic (Post 334970)
Tune up i slicni programi, daju mogucnost izbora, pa nije lose upotrebiti pojedine segmente tipa clean temp files, trash, browsing history... npr u folderu \Users\*username*\AppData\Local\Temp se nakupi nekad i preko 4-5 GB temp fajlova i smeca, koje je potpuno bezbedno brisati. To je po meni u redu koristiti, ali nikako ne njihove "optimizacije" registryja i sistema.

TuneUp sam probao, i njegov "turbo" i sada koristim, pri tom sam prosao sve predlozene faze optimizacije, i nisam pristao na neke stvari koje mi realno trebaju...
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Originally Posted by psionic (Post 334970)
Ja volim da disejblujem servis Windows Search (koji ponekad smara po hard disku nakon duzeg "idlovanja") i SuperFetch, koji puni RAM korisnim i cesto startovanim aplikacijama - da ne bi bezveze stajao neiskoriscen RAM...

Search u Win7 je totalni fijasko, pogotovo sto UVEK pokusava instant search dok jos uvek kucas, pa je prava akrobacija neophodna da uopste otkucas pojam koji trazis.

Od ostalih funkcija koje su bile nekada podnosljive a sada su katastrofa, bi naveo i sam windows explorer, koji mi je samo izgledao u pocetku nezavrseno, ali posle pokusaja koriscenja, video sam da je on znacajno izmenjen i da su korisne funkcije sasvim izbacene (recimo, slobodni prostor na disku na statusnoj liniji, odmah, bez cekanja da se sve "sracuna")

Copy file, move file, je katastrofa kada se prebacuju celi direktorijumi... jer on mora da ih sve prebroji i sta vec ne.. i onda se prvo ceka to, pa se posle ceka na kopiranje... to sve traje daleko duze nego na XP.


Za windows explorer koji je nalik starom, XPovom postoji alternativa u vidu projekta "Classic Shell", koji je besplatan, i koji stvarno olaksava zivot barem u delu funkcija baratanja sa fajlovima... podesavanje mu je veoma sofisticirano, i moguce je izvuci dobre funkcije novog explorera, a ostale skloniti da ne smetaju. Nije obavezno ga uvek podesavati, default stanje mu je sasvim ok.



Za iskljucenje instant search i INSISTIRANJE sistema na indeksiranju svih fajlova ako zelim da to bude i brzo (citaj, upotrebljivo) nisam nasao alternativu.

Za brzi i optimalniji move/copy nisam nasao alternativu.

Za ozbiljniji file search, preporucujem Agent Ransack (free), pretrazuje fajlove po sadrzaju (keyword), veoma ozbiljno i uspesno.

Na Win7 sam presao iz razloga zbog koga sam zeleo da ostanem na XP:
-na Win7 x64 bolje rade stare 32-bitne aplikacije, nego na XP x64 (!?)...
defintivno jos jedna M$ brljotina...

Khan 06-10-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335000)



Za iskljucenje instant search i INSISTIRANJE sistema na indeksiranju svih fajlova ako zelim da to bude i brzo (citaj, upotrebljivo) nisam nasao alternativu.

Za brzi i optimalniji move/copy nisam nasao alternativu.

Za normalan rad iskljucivanje inexing-a za sve diskove je MUST. Ovo je vec samo po sebi velika pomoc onome o cemu pricas.

Za move/copy alternativu vidi teracopy, vec smo ga spominjali, besplatan je i vrlo pametno uradjen, mislim da ce ti se svideti.

Automatski tune-up programi su kao loudness dugme na hi-fi pojacalima. Stvari najcesce 'deluju' bolje, a u stvari nisu.
Naravno, kao sto Boggy rece, ako covek zna sta mu treba a sta ne, daju se iskoristiti, ali je u principu bolje uraditi sve manuelno, (ili prepustiti nekome ko zna sta radi da to uradi),tako da je jasan ucinak i mogu se jasno pratiti koraci, a i ako nesto krene po zlu, lakse je ici na undo, nego razmisljati sta sve je neki automatizovani 'loudness' uradio u sistemu.

Startup servisi vise definitivno nisu najveci problem, ali ako se u radu nesto ne koristi, nema potrebe da 'dzabe gori', a korisnici koji besomucno isprobavaju software i instaliraju svasta, znaju znacajno da zatrpaju memoriju, pa je povremeno prelistavanje startup-a dobra higijenska navika za masinu.

boggy 06-10-2012 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 335007)
Za normalan rad iskljucivanje inexing-a za sve diskove je MUST. Ovo je vec samo po sebi velika pomoc onome o cemu pricas.

Pa ako ne uradis indeksiranje, instant search (koji se NE moze iskljuciti, pa da fino saceka da otkucam i pritisnem enter)... cini search prakticno neupotrebljivim... Oni su ga napravili tako da moze raditi samo kada je indeksiranje ukljuceno, a to znaci neke druge probleme.
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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 335007)
Za move/copy alternativu vidi teracopy, vec smo ga spominjali, besplatan je i vrlo pametno uradjen, mislim da ce ti se svideti.

hvala
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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 335007)
Automatski tune-up programi su kao loudness dugme na hi-fi pojacalima. Stvari najcesce 'deluju' bolje, a u stvari nisu.

Ne... ovo jeste bolje, pogotovo ako aktivno spusta prioritete trenutno nekoriscenim aplikacijama... recimo otvorenim browserima gde se vrte flash reklame koje mi ni ne gledamo... mada to resavam Adblock Plus-om... na rumskom kod mene vise NEMA reklamnih banera :mrgreen:
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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 335007)
Naravno, kao sto Boggy rece, ako covek zna sta mu treba a sta ne, daju se iskoristiti, ali je u principu bolje uraditi sve manuelno, (ili prepustiti nekome ko zna sta radi da to uradi),tako da je jasan ucinak i mogu se jasno pratiti koraci, a i ako nesto krene po zlu, lakse je ici na undo, nego razmisljati sta sve je neki automatizovani 'loudness' uradio u sistemu.

Sve su ovo blage izmene kod TuneUp... ali dosta efikasne... ono sto ne doprinosi nicemu, ni ne cacka...
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Originally Posted by Khan (Post 335007)

Startup servisi vise definitivno nisu najveci problem, ali ako se u radu nesto ne koristi, nema potrebe da 'dzabe gori', a korisnici koji besomucno isprobavaju software i instaliraju svasta, znaju znacajno da zatrpaju memoriju, pa je povremeno prelistavanje startup-a dobra higijenska navika za masinu.

Realno je problem i sa stabilnoscu celog OS-a te ako nista ne trosi, neka i gori... ako ce sve biti stabilnije.

Uglavnom... moj zakljucak je da su upotrebljivost operativnog sistema narusili (namerno) sami tvorci, pokusavajuci jos vise da snize neophodni koeficijent inteligencije potencijalnog korisnika... na stetu onih koji ponekad stvarno nesto rade na racunaru... a i da zarade pare od novih kurseva....

Khan 06-10-2012 10:59 AM

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Uglavnom... moj zakljucak je da su upotrebljivost operativnog sistema narusili (namerno) sami tvorci, pokusavajuci jos vise da snize neophodni koeficijent inteligencije potencijalnog korisnika... na stetu onih koji ponekad stvarno nesto rade na racunaru... a i da zarade pare od novih kurseva....

Ovo rezimira celu ovu raspravu... Nasa 'dovijanja' ne pomazu u borbi protiv ovakve sistematicnosti microsofta, ali, tu i tamo pomognu.

Ipak, windows 7 (ili 8, ko ga voli u sarenom pakovanju, je verovatno najbolji daw OS ikad napravljen.

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335013)
Ne... ovo jeste bolje, pogotovo ako aktivno spusta prioritete trenutno nekoriscenim aplikacijama... recimo otvorenim browserima gde se vrte flash reklame koje mi ni ne gledamo... mada to resavam Adblock Plus-om... na rumskom kod mene vise NEMA reklamnih banera :mrgreen:

Sve su ovo blage izmene kod TuneUp... ali dosta efikasne... ono sto ne doprinosi nicemu, ni ne cacka...

Realno je problem i sa stabilnoscu celog OS-a te ako nista ne trosi, neka i gori... ako ce sve biti stabilnije.

Ovo je vec licna custom-izacija, tako da nema finalne reci. Za situaciju koju si opisao, dao si jasno resenje i to je -to.

Ja sam govorio o slucaju gde se daw koristi iskljucivo za audio, tako da gasim sve u vezi sa mrezom, kao i sav hardware koji ne koristim u radu. A to se vec oseti u radu.:wink:

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335013)
hvala

Molim lepo!

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335013)
Pa ako ne uradis indeksiranje, instant search (koji se NE moze iskljuciti, pa da fino saceka da otkucam i pritisnem enter)... cini search prakticno neupotrebljivim... Oni su ga napravili tako da moze raditi samo kada je indeksiranje ukljuceno, a to znaci neke druge probleme.

Da, to je neresiv problem. Iskljucivanje indeksiranja je opet komromis, koji je opcion, zavisno od toga sta je bitnije u nacinu na koji koristimo masinu.

boggy 06-10-2012 11:20 AM

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........
Ovo je vec licna custom-izacija, tako da nema finalne reci. Za situaciju koju si opisao, dao si jasno resenje i to je -to.
........

Da, to jeste iz moje perspektive... ali ipak ocekujem da Classic Shell jos nekome moze biti od pomoci... :)

psionic 06-10-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335000)
Od ostalih funkcija koje su bile nekada podnosljive a sada su katastrofa, bi naveo i sam windows explorer, koji mi je samo izgledao u pocetku nezavrseno, ali posle pokusaja koriscenja, video sam da je on znacajno izmenjen i da su korisne funkcije sasvim izbacene (recimo, slobodni prostor na disku na statusnoj liniji, odmah, bez cekanja da se sve "sracuna")

http://imageshack.us/a/img248/2638/capturelor.jpg


Jel na ovo mislis ? Evo kod mene je lepo ispisan free space i ostalo na svakom drajvu, nista ne racuna, odmah izbaci. Hehe, nema ga bas i nesto mnogo pa ga mozda zato i ne racuna :rotfl:
Ima i u status baru... Nisam primetio da to nesto koci i racuna, kad otvorim prozor, odmah izbacuje podatke...

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335000)
Copy file, move file, je katastrofa kada se prebacuju celi direktorijumi... jer on mora da ih sve prebroji i sta vec ne.. i onda se prvo ceka to, pa se posle ceka na kopiranje... to sve traje daleko duze nego na XP.

Eto rekao je Khan - TeraCopy je ime te alatke. Ja koristim i Directory Opus - totalna zamena shella, mnogo dobar Norton Commander style program, prisutan jos iz doba Amige :)
Ja sam davno prestao da se bakcem sa XPom, ali u to doba sam prebacivao manju kolicinu podataka i fajlova nego sada. Tada mi je 320GB hard bio izdeljen na 4 particije i to je bilo svemirski veliko. Danas radimo u terabajtima, tako da je mozda u tome problem. Mozda je jednostavno veca kolicina fajlova i podataka, zato mu duze treba. A da nesto broji i nabraja - istina, ne secam se stvarno da li je i XP to radio ili ne.

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335000)
Za windows explorer koji je nalik starom, XPovom postoji alternativa u vidu projekta "Classic Shell", koji je besplatan, i koji stvarno olaksava zivot barem u delu funkcija baratanja sa fajlovima... podesavanje mu je veoma sofisticirano, i moguce je izvuci dobre funkcije novog explorera, a ostale skloniti da ne smetaju. Nije obavezno ga uvek podesavati, default stanje mu je sasvim ok.

Directory Opus, Total Commander... Svi su u stilu old time DOS komandera, DOpus cak moze potpuno da eliminise ucitavanje windows explorera... Ta ideja prozora je meni licno glupa jos od samog starta.

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335000)
Za iskljucenje instant search i INSISTIRANJE sistema na indeksiranju svih fajlova ako zelim da to bude i brzo (citaj, upotrebljivo) nisam nasao alternativu.

Svi sad nesto "furaju taj fazon". Ako obratis paznju, videces da se to desava i na raznim browserima, smart telefonima i slicno. Samo sto tamo, uredjaj barata sa indeksiranim bazama i sa manjim kolicinama podataka, nego sto su fajlovi na hard disku - koji je sam po sebi spor medijum. E jednog dana kada SSDovi zavladaju trzistem, i kad se danasnji klinci budu sa setom secali kako su se nekada tu neke ploce okretale, kao na gramofonima, onda ce taj search raditi malo bolje, kao i cela ta ideja searcha i indeksiranja.

BTW, mozes sve drajvove ubaciti u indeks, upravljati indeksiranjem i onda ce, kada jednom izgradi database, sve ici malo brze. Evo pogledaj OVAJ link kako se to radi, ako nisi i sam vec pokusao...

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Originally Posted by boggy (Post 335000)
Na Win7 sam presao iz razloga zbog koga sam zeleo da ostanem na XP:
-na Win7 x64 bolje rade stare 32-bitne aplikacije, nego na XP x64 (!?)...
defintivno jos jedna M$ brljotina...

Windows operativni sistem se razvija dalje i razvijace se u pravcima koji se nekima nece svideti, nekima hoce, opet ubacivace stvari koje ce biti bolje nego pre, a druge ce praviti probleme, pa ce ih pachovati do u nedogled i tako dok ne izbace neki win 9... To je neminovnost.

Pored novina koje nam se svidjaju ili ne, razvijali su i sam OS kernel, pokusavali da ga unaprede, dok su od XPa davno digli ruke. Bagovi koji su kocili XP da radi dobro, narocito XP64 (koji nikad nisu ni razvili do kraja) su ostali neotklonjeni i preslo se na rad na tada novom Windowsu. Sada je sedmica glavna stvar i naravno da se iz sve snage trude da radi. Najzad, tada su svi imali XP 32bit, sada vecina ljudi ima WIN7 64bit, a kako i dalje postoji more programa na 32bita, morali su dobro da se potrude da win7 64bit "svira" u 32bita - besprekorno...

boggy 06-10-2012 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by psionic (Post 335020)
http://imageshack.us/a/img248/2638/capturelor.jpg


Jel na ovo mislis ? Evo kod mene je lepo ispisan free space i ostalo na svakom drajvu, nista ne racuna, odmah izbaci.
Hehe, nema ga bas i nesto mnogo pa ga mozda zato i ne racuna :rotfl:
Ima i u status baru... Nisam primetio da to nesto koci i racuna, kad otvorim prozor, odmah izbacuje podatke...
.........

Ne, ne... mislim na ovo, kad kliknes na direktorijum ispise koliko imas fajlova i koliki ti je prostor na hard disku
http://imageshack.us/a/img441/7536/capturebb.jpg

Tu funkciju su NAMERNO izbacili iz windows explorera, a moze se vratiti sa Classic Shell.

EDIT:
Objasnjenje za to je:
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The free space reporting for the Status Bar was removed when the new Libraries were included in the OS. Because of the way the Status Bar reports free space and because it was designed long before the Libraries were conceived, it was seen to be reporting inaccurate information about the free space on the drives. There was a choice of completely recoding the way the Status Bar reported the free space or simply removing that capability. Since there are many other ways to see the free space for a drive, they decided to remove that code.

Another reason is that the Status Bar has always been close to useless when reporting free space, since it is not a realtime component. If the free space on a drive changes, the Status Bar will not reflect the new free space number until there is a refresh of Windows Explorer.

The Status Bar was not completely removed, because it is still useful since it is an easy way to see the number of parent objects in a folder.
Tako da su najstrasnije hteli da podrze libraries, kojima ja ne vidim uopste namenu... sto volim sto "demokratski" razmisljaju, i odmah su odlucili da je ideja sa libraries sjajna... :rolleyes: kao nosorog u prodavnici lustera...

psionic 06-10-2012 12:28 PM

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http://imageshack.us/a/img846/4371/capturekep.jpg

Evo sta se desi kada kliknem na drajv C npr. Pa onda kada otvorim folder. Da sam selektovao folder, ispisao bi mi properties (kad je modifikovan, ako ima fajlova - koliki su...) Dinamicki menja sadrzaj status bara. Mozda su "dopakovali" opciju u nekom patchu.

EDIT: Da, sada ne ispisuje koliki su fajlovi, dok se ne selektuju (sto mi i ne smeta toliko) Samo njihov broj... I ne ispisuje free space uvek, samo ako selektujes drajv. Svejedno, ne vidim to kao neki veliki hendikep, free space mozes videti na raznim drugim mestima...

psionic 06-10-2012 01:28 PM

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...Tako da su najstrasnije hteli da podrze libraries, kojima ja ne vidim uopste namenu...

A evo jedne prakticne primene Library opcije, korisno je i ubrzava rad. Napravite svoju zbirku omiljenih mesta, nazovete biblioteku kako zelite i sve je tu, na dohvat ruke. Iz bilo kog prozora, u svakom trenutku. Meni zaista ponekad koristi ovo...

http://imageshack.us/a/img525/7872/capturejre.jpg

Pozivanje iz bilo kog prozora:

http://imageshack.us/a/img28/4236/capturetes.jpg

Ja sam u nekom "random" folderu, a sa strane uvek stoje biblioteke, kao neke favorit lokacije, koje uopste ne moraju da budu videos, music, sve to pobrisete i napravite svoje... Ako cu vec da radim sa prozorima, ovo i nije toliko losa stvar...

boggy 06-10-2012 01:34 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
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Originally Posted by psionic (Post 335024)
Evo jedne prakticne primene Library opcije, korisno je i ubrzava rad. Napravite svoju zbirku omiljenih mesta, nazovete biblioteku kako zelite i sve je tu, na dohvat ruke. Iz bilo kog prozora, u svakom trenutku. Meni zaista ponekad koristi ovo...

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A evo i pozivanja iz prozora:

http://imageshack.us/a/img28/4236/capturetes.jpg

Ja sam u nekom "random" folderu, a sa strane uvek stoje biblioteke, kao neke favorit lokacije, koje uopste ne moraju da budu videos, music, sve to pobrisete i napravite svoje... Ako cu da radim sa prozorima, ovo i nije toliko losa stvar...

Ma ne treba mi windows libraries, da bi slozio slicne stvari na jedno mesto...

Mnogo mi je zanimljivije sto su (NAPOKON!!!) napravili UNIX-like funkciju za simbolicki link... tako a mogu naknadno da premestim program koji je instaliran (recimo) na C: a da on fiktivno ostane u C:\Program Files.. iako je fizicki na disku F:
to je savrseno za programe koji tokom rada povecavaju prostor koji zauzimaju na instalacionom disku (ne kazem da je to mudro, ali se ne moze ispraviti)

senoprpuba 18-01-2013 11:34 PM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Pozdrav svim ?lanovima i korisnicima ovog foruma, novi sam ?lan i upravo nameravam da instaliram win7 radi isklju?ivog kori??enja konfiguracije za muzi?ku produkciju u ku?nim uslovima. ?itam ovu temu koja se bavi eventualnom opimalizacijom sistema ali nikako da na?em ili barem ja nisam uo?io, o kojem win7 je re? PROFESSIONALx64 ili ULTIMATEx64. D a li je to uop?te bitno svakako da ?e odgovor mo?i dati neko od ko je u tome iskusan.
Dakle dilema koji sistem odabrati da bi se eventualno izvr?ila neka od pomenutih radnji.:please:

Khan 19-01-2013 11:57 AM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Dobrodosao!

Za sve navedene optimizacije je nebitno da li se radi o prof. ili ultim. verziji windowsa. Ako imas izbor, ultimate, mada realno gledano za sve ono sto se odnosi na DAW, razlika je nebitna.

silzg 04-06-2013 10:50 AM

Re: DAW-WINDOWS 7-optimizacija part I
 
Sa Win XP sam isprobao sve moguće optimizacije (i one egzotične kao što je rad sa nLite-om) al nikad nisam primjetio nikakvu bitnu razliku ako se instaliraju kao DAW OS a to znači bez suvišnih drivera i bez antivirusa i firewall-a (bez konekcije na internet).
Win 7 još bolje radi sa više jezgri, stabilniji je i još manje treba optimizacije. Uostalom, većina popularnih "optimizacije" kao što je npr. stopiranje ms servisa spadaju u kategorije mitova i legendi a kada ne štete, ne koriste ničem.

Sad nakon friške instalacije OS-a, jedino što napravim je:

- isključim UAC
- fiksiram virtualnu memoriju
- u power scheme prebacim na High Performance
- u system properties - performance options vizualne efekte stavim na best performance.

Zatim instaliram samo ono što je vezano za DAW i defragmentiram tu particiju. Kad poželim skenirat sa antivirusnim onda to radim iz drugih windowsa. Sve radi bez greške. Osim kad proizvođači kartica naprave loš drajver. :D

Eh da, prebacit scheduling procesora mada sumnjam da ima ikakve bitne razlike ako ostane na opciji foreground procesa.


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