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Songwriting tips...
Evo i moj mali doprinos forumu,nije otkrivanje tople vode,al ne moz da skodi...neke osnovne stvari koje se ispostave da ljudi vremenom zaborave
SONGWRITING TIPS <link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CIva%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtm l1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:FR;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0cm; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:36.0pt; mso-footer-margin:36.0pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> One of the most overlooked secrets to writing strong songs is so simple you'll think it's stupid. And yet it's so important that I don't know why songwriting authors and "teachers" have not made more of a big deal of it. Here it is: ALWAYS start your songs strong. <link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CIva%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtm l1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:FR;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0cm; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:36.0pt; mso-footer-margin:36.0pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> It sounds too simple to even be called it a "tip." I can hear you saying it, "Everybody knows that!" But do they? Out of 100 songs I hear at writer's events, 97 of them will have weak first lines (actually weak first and second lines). Just think of how crazy this is. <link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CIva%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtm l1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:FR;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0cm; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:36.0pt; mso-footer-margin:36.0pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> It's finally your turn! They announce your song title and your name, and press "play." ALL EARS ARE ON YOUR SONG! AND...because you didn't start strong, all that rapt attention just bleeds out into the carpet while your first two lines dribble out of the speakers like warm mayonnaise. No (or low) impact. By the time your lyric gets up to speed it's too late. The audience has quietly slipped you into the "just another wanna-be" category along with many other people.This can also apply to writing melodies. ALWAYS START STRONG. <link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CIva%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtm l1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:DontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:FR;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0cm; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; mso-header-margin:36.0pt; mso-footer-margin:36.0pt; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} </style> <![endif]--> |
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WHAT ARE YOU SHOOTING FOR?
Your goal is not to make every song's first line into an epic event. Sometimes a song calls for an understated beginning. However, understated is not the same thing as boring or un-engaging. Here's what I believe you should shoot for in EVERY first line you allow out of the house: Your first line should entice, dare, tease, or otherwise promise the listener that if they will listen to the next 3 lines, they will be happy they did. Remember that a song is a two-way communication. A listener must literally give your song the time of day to even experience it. If you don't make (and keep) a worthwhile promise right up front, a split-second decision will be made to bypass your song. So keep this simple thought in your mind: Make the promise in the first few seconds, then keep the promise with the rest of the song. |
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KEEP THE MESSAGE SIMPLE
------------------------ Write words that connect with other people! What is the point of having the most clever, thought-out, deep and poetic lyrics if nobody can relate to them? Well, there isn't much point. If you want a song that people can 'connect' with, then keep the lyrics simple. Even the most experienced songwriters will come back to this point over and over again - keep the lyrics simple. This doesn't mean that you have to write the obvious 'catch phrases', what it DOES mean, it that DON'T LET YOUR LYRICS GET TOO COMPLICATED so that nobody can understand what you're trying to say! While I certainly wouldn't disagree with using metaphors and similes, I wouldn't use them exclusively. So just there's no need to get too fancy,they're like jewelery,and too much bling looks tacky right? Remember, you're not writing songs for English literature professors. You're writing songs for the world to hear and relate to. |
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WRITE WITH YOURSELF
------------------- Of course technically speaking, you can't be a songwriting team 'with yourself' (unless you really do have a split personality) but there IS a way to actually write 'with yourself'. It's a technique most of us use without even realizing. Have you ever started to write lyrics and didn't finish them? Have you ever started to write a tune and then you just 'left it'? Have you ever written a few chords only to not know where to go next? Of course you have. I have too, on many occasions. So often these unfinished idea's are left in a notebook or recorded somewhere and then never to be seen again. This is where 'self collaboration' comes in. Usually, we barely remember what we were working on back then and this is why you should go BACK to these idea's. So much time would have elapsed and you will feel like you're writing with someone else's idea. You will have the advantage on gaining a perspective that you didn't have the first time around. Funny enough, with the gap of time, we can almost always tell why we couldn't finish the song in the first place. But now we see the flaws and all the cracks that we completely missed first time around - and it now seems so obvious and apparent. So, learn to write with yourself. Make it your secret weapon. |
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@prvi post:
what about: marlena shaw: woman of gheto? :) treba puci na emociju/ritam odmah. BUM - "HA, sto soma zvanica, red se razvlachi od mamuta do kalisha" jako. i ne zajebavam se sad.. |
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CREATING MELODIES
The moment that people create a melody which they feel is great, many think it already sounds like another song. This is common, and I suffered from this many times. What you've got to understand is that ALL SONGS are RECYCLED MELODIES. Every song has a 'portion' of the tune which will be the same as another. So don't worry if you feel your song sounds like another. It's perfectly normal to feel this way. What's important to know here is that if your melody is a familiar one, then that's a GOOD THING. I'm NOT talking about a 'rip off' here, I'm talking about a part(s) of your melody that sounds like another song(s). Why is it a good thing? Because it means PEOPLE RELATE TO THE MELODY even more. They will want to listen to your song because of the familiarity. Remember, most people aren't songwriters. So chances are, most people won't even realize where it may or may not have been inspired from. And what if they do? Well... ultimately, as a whole, it will be your own words, your own tune and eventually with your own music. So it will be YOUR SONG. So don't fret. Again, I just want to stress the point -- this ISN'T about ripping off other melodies. This is about creating your own melodies that sound like a familiar tune to the world out there. It's two very different things. |
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Nisi sacekao ni da zavrsim thread uh..
what about intro od 40 sek za until then :) hahah btw citaj ovo sve...nije za bacanje Quote:
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LOGICAL GAPS CAN KILL YOUR SONG
Unlike poems, (which can be read and re-read until you understand them), songs come at you--line by line. And if listeners come upon any big logical gaps in a song or confusing bits, they will often stop listening and start solving the mystery. Meanwhile, the song just keeps coming out of the speakers like a line of freight cars. Once they pile up...the listener gets frustrated and gives up. Then he's fiddling for another button on the radio. In my experience, these gaps often happen because YOU as writer know the story in your head already. But listeners only know what you tell them in the song's lines. Inexperienced writers will often leave things out without realizing it. Sometimes the gap is right at the beginning...the song starts and the listeners are immediately lost. If you don't let them have their bearings, they'll just turn you off. I've had new writers argue that they don't want to give too much away...they want to hold some important details back for mystery's sake. As we learned in the last tip, music listeners do LOVE surprises. But they don't love being lost. |
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: jbt.. mislio sam da radimo dobru ziku, a ne glupu komercijalu.. mislim ovo "ne pametujte".. zashto? ako je dobro, onda zashto ne? ma ajte molimte.. nisam znao da cesh nastaviti da pishesh jbg.. |
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drugo,ne razumem zasto mi uporno ne verujes...jesam li uradila do sad nesto sto je 'glupa komercijala' ?(reklama za pink up se ne racuna,to je REKLAMA Bogom dana da bude komercijalna,i morao je onakav text) To sto zelim da nam muzika privlaci paznju ne znaci da je to nesto fuj odvratno i ponizno...i ko zna sta... |
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Kao što je poštovani gos'n Eddie Van Halen rekao "If it sounds good it's good".
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eh velike pameti..:rotfl:
sto je nekome dobro ili nije.. je apsolutno subjektivno.. bolje mu je nek nastavi sa soliranjem.. |
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Ne radi se o tome uopste...
Nije isto pisati pesmu za sebe,i pisati muziku koju imas nameru deliti sa drugima i ocekujes da ostavi utisak na njih (sa tim da se naravno,prvenstveno tebi dopada),ili hoces reci da se ne slazes? isto kao sto neces napisati roman na isti nacin na koji si kod kuce pisao dnevnik! i neces na isti nacin servirati hranu u restoranu,i u svojoj trpezariji... naravno da nije 'topla voda',kao sto sam i rekla,ali su stvari koje ljudi cesto zanemare,iako ostanu pri istom cilju.. u sv sl,niko vas ne primorava da se slazete s tim,zar ne...ali verujem da neki od ovih podsetnika mogu posluziti bar da razbiju blokadu u pisanju... aj pozz Quote:
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@Eeva, ako je ovo ono sto si mi prevela, onda jeste tako. Dobar thread i dobro english pisanje o tome. To su nacela, da kazem, za zanatsko (jer i nije nista drugo) 'stvaranje' muzike potrosackog drustva.
Sto ne bi rekao Edi Van Halen : "Sto je tako - tako je!" :grin: |
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pa da,ali zasto ljudi ovo tumace kao uputsvo za pravljenje djubreta od muzike :(....ako je nesto dopadljivo i privlaci paznju ne mora valjda da bude komercijalni trash?...npr poslednji album Chake Khan bi ispunjavao sve sto sam navela (tj copy paste-ovala) u ovom threadu ...da li bismo sad to nazvali komercijalnom muzikom??u tom slucaju bi najveci klasici u istoriji muzike bili gola g*vna...? :-S
mislim,ne znam,mozda ja imam iskrivljenu predstavu o pojmu 'komercijalna muzika'.. ja komercijalnu muziku tumacim kao prodavanje klishea,u kome ne ucestvuju emocije.. a dodavanje interesantnih elemenata vasoj autobiografskoj pesmi (ili bilo kakvoj pesmi nastaloj iz iskrene emocije),koji privlace paznju i cine je fleksibilnijom, ne bih sa tim nikako poistovetila... hocu reci, 'sellable' mi nije isto sto i 'made only to be sold'! enivej,samo moje misljenje, ne pucajte! pis baba :) |
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Eva nemoj da daješ te nerviraju i mene su tako kad sam pito prošli put za harmoniku i emu karticu pa mi je na kraju šurak pomogo i sad sve radi a evo da neki nebi pomislili nešto loše promenijo sam i tastaturu na kompijuteru.kupijo sam u metrou ovu sa našom latniciom pošto su neki ovde mislili dasam verovatno nepismen ali neka.a u vezi tekstova da dodam samo ovo muzika je lepa tek kad srce cepa,a takav volim i kad je tekst nebitno zabavni narodni:wink:
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Isto je kao sa glumom (da ne pominjem opere :)). Ovim redom : tekst, melodija, arr., interpretsacija & mix, a sada i predstavljanje na tevi, interu ili gdje već (spotovi i sl. kerefeke) ; ali prije svega ovo prvo četvero (petero) : Dakle, sposobnost da se prenese emocija - naum tekstopisca -> koja pada na kompozitora melodije -> koja pada na kompozitora aranžmana -> koji pada na mix majstora ... Svi u lancu MORAJU da dožive i daju svoj pečat da bi početni naum / osjećaji / saopštenje, u vidu par minutne muzičke 'predstave' imali ocjenu valjanog. Kao i u glumi, dobar glumac može od 'ničega' napraviti fantastično predstavljanje kroz lik sa kojim se poistovjećuje, i obratno. Tako je i ovdje : svi u lancu kreiraju zajedničkog glumca u vidu pjesme, koji predstavlja njihovo viđenje (odglumljivanje) saopštenja kojeg prenose slušaocu. Svakako, može biti odlično saopšteno i od lošeg da bude veoma dobro, ili upropašteno. To publikum potrošačke muzičke (ne)kulture koja danas preovlašuje često ne prepoznaje, jer je najveći broj numera usputno sredstvo za proživljavanje par minuta života obojenog kukumavčenjem ili izmišljenom pričom o 'meni i njoj i šta sam ja njoj učinio i ona meni' itd. danas nazvanog TF. Da li su evergrini samo radi lijepe melodije? Ili samo radi lijepog teksta? Ili samo radi lijepog arr.? Ili isto tako muzičkog zapisa? SVE ZAJEDNO! Drugo se zaboravlja i kratkog je daha. Ipak, opet ono :"Svaka roba ima svog kupca". Neko želi da mu poruku koju želi čuti saopštiš uz teške bitove i dva tona melodije ; neko uz pratnju gitare i krasni vokal, neko ... Ljudi koji pišu nešto samo za sebe su najobičniji čudaci. Oni koji pišu za druge ; prvi koji će imati zadovoljstvo trošeći vrijeme na kreiranje poruke koju prenose da bi drugi uživali u kreaciji, i drugi isto to na slušanje, su tandem robe i kupca koji su se našli. Takvih parova ima bezbroj. I to je to. Uvodnik u thread ti je, opet velim, sasvim o.k. Neponovljive su kreacije svih koji su učestvovali u prenošenju saopštenja Zdenka Runjića : tekstovi predivni, melodije isto tako, arr. isto, interpretacija Olivera (i ponekad drugih) - isto. Tehnički dio : kako se moglo (pare, uslovi izdavaštva ...). Ima li nešto u njima što se ne slaže sa onim što piše u tvom uvidniku? NEMA. Dakle, sve O.K. :) p.s. E, sada Eeva, ono što ti se možda neće dopasti : lično poimanje kvaliteta je lično. Kolektivitet u određenom vremenu određuje pravila za vrednovanje onog što je za njih O.K. Ako se TF prodaje u onoj mjeri kojom su potrošači bombardovani njime, onda je većinski sveprihvaćen i sa stajališta i jednih i drugih trenutna klasa kvaliteta. Da ne bude zabune : TF sam samo pomenuo kao uzorak - ništa više. Lično, od pojedinih bravura u TF u instrumentalnom dijelu dobijem kompleks niže vrijednosti, jer i pored decenija muziciranja imam potrebu da se na neki ukras ili solo vraćam desetine puta dok ne zaključim da moji prsti to ne slušaju više i da trebam "preformulisati" slijed i trajanje nota -:)-:)-:). |
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hahhaahahahahahahhahaha :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Na ?ta je : HaHaHaHa? :grin:
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izgleda da je nasa prvobitna sumnja u Estbamovo fizicko postojanje ,nekog novog inspirisala da se jako neubedljivo sprda na forumu.
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:):D:rotfl:
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Eva ja se nes prdam sa nikim posebno ne sa tobom jer i ja imam ženu i dva sina i nebi voleo da njih neko sprda.samo sam te podržo sa tvojom izjavom ali neka eto neču više da smetam a nije mi namera bila nego samo da kažem da i ja volim tekst kad je dobar
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definishi dobar tekst...?
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kome je upuceno pitanje?
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pa evo ja sam naprimer armonikaš i volim kad je u nekom stilu dvojke i tako to evo naprimer kad izmišljam tekst prema nekoj drugoj ženi a ne mojoj onda može TVOJA ME GUZA NAVODI DO SUZA, TVOJE ME GRUDI TERAJU NA BLUDI ali da me ne bi Eva opet pogrešno razumela ovo nije za nju pisano nego za kao neku tamo izmišljenu ženu a moja je sad ušla u kući pa mora malo da oladim sa ovaj internet:D
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U'vaćen si prijatelju!!! :D |
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Koliko nagovestaja je adminu i moderatoru potrebno da skapiraju da neko detinjasto iz dokolice spamuje forum?
:-/ mislim kapiram da se mozda zabavljate uz ovo (?),ali ljudi... :-S Quote:
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Iva... Lepo je ovo sto si okacila. Lepo u smislu da je lepo videti da se neko trudi. Licno mislim da tutorijal ne moze nekome objasniti kako da uradi "dobru" pesmu, ali ostavljam kao mogucnost da gresim. U tom slucaju, bilo bi lepo da ovaj text na engleskom prevedes na jezik razumljiv vecini jer bi se u tom slucaju mogao staviti kao "sticky" u tutorijale, pa bi mozda nekome nesto i pomogao. Sto se tice "komercijale"... Muzika MORA da bude komercijalna jer u suprotnom niko ne bi cuo za nju (prvi preduslov "komercijalizacije"), a takodje autori muzike ne bi mogli da zive ako ne bi postojao "komercijalni" momenat u njihovom bavljenju muzikom, tzv "isplata za njihov rad" (drugi preduslov...). Ako tako posmatramo na stvari, svaka dobra muzika je komercijalna. Ima i lose komercijalne muzike, ali to nije tema. Za muziku koja nije komercijalna postoji uzasno jak razlog, a prvi u nizu je taj da verovatno to niko ne zeli da slusa jer ne vredi k.... Ovde postoji tendencija da se lepe etike "komercijalno" i "nekomercijalno" kao sinonim za "lose", odnosno "dobro", a svi prevazilaze cinjenicu da ti "nekomercijalni" umetnici ili albumi zarade vise novca od bilo kog narodnjaka ovde, sto bi u toj analogiji dovelo do konstatacije da su nasi turbo-folkeri prilicno "nekomercijalni" (citaj "dobri"), sto nije bas slucaj, slozicete se, zar ne? :) Elem... Prevedi ti taj text, ne bilo ti zapovedjeno, pa da ga okacimo negde gde ce ljudi imati priliku da ga lakse nadju :wink: |
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Hahah,eto pronasao se jos jedan nacin da ujedinim svoje dve buduce profesije...
cim nadjem malo vise vremena,podelicu sa vama svoje prevodilacke vestine xixixi :) Quote:
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Eeva, kako prevodilački posao? :)
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e bas cu sad da sednem da prevedem na brzaka..da se skrenem s losih misli..
elem,da li da otvaram novi thread ili ovde da pisem?? |
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Otvori novi thread, pa cu ga ja zalepiti gore ;)
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Odlični tekstovi i prijevod, EEva!
Ti bi trebala biti mod ovog dijela foruma. Jedina se zaista trudiš. To je moj prijedlog, pa ako ga koji mod zamjeti dobro je. :) |
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