Focusrite Liquid-mix..utisci
 

Pre neki dan, prijatelj je pazario (u Artistu) , a danas sam imao priliku da malo testiram i.... utisci su .....fenomenalni.
Zaista nisam siguran da postoji drugi native ili dsp eq , comp , koji bi mogao da pridje ovoliko blizu "analognom" zvuku koliko mislim da je to uspeo focusrite.Sta god da sam cacnuo ...sve je zvucalo ..meko ..svilenkasto ..muzikalno.
Odmah sam insertovao i waves ssl eq radi poredjenja.....razlika nije bas mala kao sto sam se nadao, .. kad dignem npr. 10 db na 7 Khz...ssl vec opasno grebe po usima dok kod liquidovih emulacija to zvuci duplo mekse.
Da ne davim puno posto je ovo samo subjektivno misljenje, ko ima priliku ,treba obavezno da cuje ili jos bolje da proba.....

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koliko toga moze da se potera realno u npr 24/44,1kHz ?

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mislim da sam pre godinu dana pisao da je po meni bolje od uad-a i powercora


al me niko ne slusa:D

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Nisam siguran...valjda 32 kom.

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Hehe...pa nije bas tacno....bas sam skoro citao ono tvoje "prepucavanje" sa Maxom....
Max ima dobre usi , ako bude dao priliku LM-u... verovatno ce sam da proda UAD-a...:)

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he he he.... budi siguran ...... ja definitivno nisam mekog srca prema opremi ...... mada mi je Manley otvorio trece oko sa API 512 c :banghead:

...... hvala na komplimentu za usi :)


Pozdrav

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Koliko je plaćen Liquid Mix?

Ja sam ga gledao jo? oko predstavljanja i tada mi je bio interesantan, a obzirom da ću avgusta imati nekog ke?a, mogao bih da se častim spravom ako je dobra :)

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uzimaj LM i ne razmisljaj, jos je dobro sto je svaki update dzaba i delay kompenzacija u protoolsu je laksa 1000 puta nego sa UAD i PoCo

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@ max

sta ja pricam bre? poceo si da postujes moje misljenje polako ;)

jel hoces sada da ti odgovorim na pitanja postavljena za mastering, vintech i spl :D

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Ma ti si kao zarazna bolest :)

Doduse evo valjda ce Off danas da mi donese smpro ribon da probam sa ovim a designom , jer mi se ne dopada uopste ( mislim , u svemu je gori od API ja ) , pa da vidimo na cemu ce sve ribon da zasija ..... ako ne budem srecan , kako da ga zamenim za a design p1 ????

Ne secam se nista na tu temu ...... pazi ja sam poslusao LM ..... i iako se na eq ovima nije pokazao lose , ipak na kompresorima IMO nije ni prici UAD u ..... mada LM nije skup , tako da cena nije biti ili ne biti ( mada ja jos uvek moram da se izvucem iz dugova , a i taj Great River .... ne da mira :banghead: ) ... a i pravo da ti kazem , nisam na LM u video eq koji moze prici UAD Neve 1073 .... bar ne ono sto sam cuo .

A sta sam pitao u vezi masteringa i Vintecha ?????



Pozdrav

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Aj isprocesuj par sekundi nekog vokala sa Neve, a ja cu isti sa LM...da razresimo dilemu...ali da eq bude extreman da bi se lakse uocila razlika.
A sto se tice kompresora....ne znam....nekad davno sam imao Tubetch la2b, i jos uvek u glavi mogu da prepoznam taj zvuk...na LM postoji slicna emulacija i ...ma mogu da se opkladim da je to bar 90 % posto orginala ..ok ..jes da je to sve iz glave, svakako da bi sprava na licu mesta bila mnogo merodavnija za zakljucak...al da lici ...lici

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Dali si ikada probao na pravom filteru da odvrnes 10 db na 7 kila, Neve, Ssl, Amek, Fokus itd? E pa brate to ne grebe po usim nego oci ispadaju!

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Ne nisam...
imao sam par an. kompresora (focusrite red, tubetech) , ali sa analognim eq-u nemam ama bas nikakvog iskustva.Imam sad na dohvat ruke jednog ameka i par avalona , tako da cu bas da vidim sta se desava .7khz jeste malo extreman izbor za + 10 db, ali cilj mi je i bio da ga malo "otcepim" da bih lakse cuo sta se desava.
Inace nit sam neki pro producent nit neki gearslutz,voleo bih da se javi jos neko ko koristi LM i da kaze svoje utiske.

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Slazem se ....



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Hocu .... daj mi do vikenda da uhvatim malo slobodnog vremena ......

Uporedjivao sam Waves ssl , sa pravim ssl om ..... jbno je slicno ..... tesko smo hvatali razlike cak i kod extremnijeg eq inga ..... a i te razlike nisu bile na strani jednog ili drugog , nego stvar ukusa .

A Neve 1073 ( iako stvarno nemam da ga uporedim ) sto ti kazes .... po secanju mi je to , to .

A mozda ako svracas do Bg .... da ga spakujes pod ruku pa ovamo ????

A i davno se nismo videli ;)



Pozdrav


P.S. eeeee kad moras da se dovijas trikovima da bi se video sa ljudima :D

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Hvala na pozivu...prvom prilikom i sa zadovoljstvom.... da bar jos jednom vidim kako izgleda projekat od 100 kanala u Nuendu:):):)

Aj za vikend isprocesuj neki wav pa mi izvorni baci na mail.

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i kakvi su sada utisci nakon nekoliko meseci koriscenja?

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Skoro isti....Odlicna je sprava..

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Evo i ja se pridruzujem srecnim i zadovoljnim korisnicima doticne sprave. Odlicni rezultati za relativno malo para. Dobri i korisni preseti. Odlican zvuk. Vrlo posteno odradjeno i ne previse skupo za ono sto se dobija.

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Ma i ja nesto mislim da uzmem jedan... Posto je to cudo sad?

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oprostite na neznanju, ali da li se mo?e lm insertovati tako da odmah kompresira signal prije nego se snimi, tj da se snimi kompresirani signal ko sa nekim chanell stripom, vanjskim limiterom,ma znate ?to hoću pitati ????????????????????????

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evo drugari pa se okušajte:
http://www.focusrite.com/liquidmixchallenge/

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He.... 70% A nisam u zivotu vidio/cuo L.Mix uzivo! I to sa sve sj#banim uhom.

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znači puka sreća iliti što bi naš prost narod reko "usralo te"...šalim se naravno...ipak činjenica je da zvuči j*b*no dobro

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Pa sad ne znam jel sreca ili ne?:D :D

Uglavnom.... Glasao sam za liquidmix tu gdje sam cuo malo vise 'plastike' u primjerima:]

A da zvuci ok, ZVUCHI!

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tek sad pocinjem da ucim da slusham, he he
trebace mi vremena da iskoristim sve potencijale ove spravice

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70 % ...dobra sprava za sitne pare

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evo i ja 70%... ma oni nas zajebavaju :wink: :D ... inace primeri zvuce super, eto jos jedne stavke za wishlist:D

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Mislim, za te pare nema sta da se razmislja...pogotovo sto ima veci broj
pro-snimatelja i producenata koji ga koriste..(ne misli na one koji ga reklamiraju!)

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80% :wink:
iskreno, klikao sam na ono sta mi je bilo uhu ugodnije
zvuci dobro, a nije tako skupo... nema druge nego ga ubacit u 2008 wishlist :rotfl:

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Iskreno, malo sam skeptichan.. kao i uvek, kad sam ja u pitanju :D , ali... hmmm... lako je moguce da i ja kupim jedno ovo chudance uskoro :)

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koliko kosta ova sprava?

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Jel treba za taj test neko iskutvo sa analogijama? Jer glupo mi se testirati na nešto što iskustveno nisam doživio.

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Jbga..kazu i na Gearslutz-u isto..nisu samplovi i procesovani samplovi iste jacine, a to je vrlo vazno !
Drugo, vrlo mali broj ljudi je ikada bio u prilici da ima originale i da ih uporedjuje !!
A trece, (skoro) svi su se slozili da je korisna sprava, a po meni to je dosta!
E sad da li lici ili ne to je vec druga prica!! (kao i sa svim softwerom)..

ali za te pare je vise nego ok....

neko je jos skrenuo paznju da ne radi sa Duendeom na istom firewire busu...ko ne zna!

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Evo sta sam uspio nac u Hrvatskoj:

Focusrite na svom siteu kao oficijelne dealere za HR navode AudioPro, a cijena je 5.211,00kn (cca 705EUR).
Tamo jos kazu:

Quote:

Sve cijene navedene na webu su maloprodajne cijene (MPC) izra?ene u kunama sa uračunatim PDV-om. Na svaki račun preko 1.000,00 kn plaćen gotovinom ostvarujete pravo na popust od 5 do 15%

sta bi u idealnoj varijanti znacilo 4.430,00kn ili 105 eura manje i to mi se cini OK cijena, tim vise sta ga npr. Thomann nudi za 719EUR. Pridodamo li tome postarinu i carinu sve vam je jasno8-) . Kod Thomanna je jedino zgodno sta se LiquidMix moze pogledat u Flash "360-degree zoom image" animaciji. Ako koga zanima.
LiquidMix u HR nude i Audion, ali nema cijene.
I Provox nudi Focusrite opremu, ali ga nemaju u ponudi. Oni doduse osvjezavaju svoje web stranice jednom godisnje :rolleyes: pa ih je najbolje kontaktirat (znao sam kojiput kod njih kupit komad opreme koji uopce nije u ponudi).
Eto, ja toliko. Ako ko zna da se LiquidMix moze nabavit jos jeftinije u HR nek javi.
Poz.

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Nije zgoreg imat na umu i ovaj podatak:

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The Liquid Mix utilises a patented process called Dynamic Convolution to measure examples of the sonic impact of original analogue products upon an audio stream, so as to electronically emulate the performance of the original product. The patch names themselves can be a little cryptic, so here's the full list of hardware units that were used in their creation. Focusrite stress that the following product names, trademarks and trade names are used solely to identify and describe the third-party products the sonic behaviour of which was studied in the design of Liquid Mix ? no collaboration or endorsement between Focusrite and these companies is implied. Note that each emulation has a short and a longer name; the former is what appears in the unit's own LCD, while the fuller name appears on your computer.
Compressor Emulations
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifFlat Comp / Clean Sound Free Controls
Focusrite Liquid Channel DSP compressor.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifTrany C / US Classic Discrete 1C
Based on an API 2500 stereo mastering compressor, serial number 0016 (Old/Normal/Hard settings).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifTrany A / US Classic Discrete 1A
Based on an API 2500 stereo mastering compressor, serial number 0016 (Old/Normal/Soft settings).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifSilver 2 / US Modern Tube 1
Based on an Avalon VT737SP valve channel strip, serial number 28150.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifLive Sound / Brit Live Sound 1
Based on a BSS DPR402 dual compressor/limiter, serial number 02-9983-B.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifLondon / Brit Boutique Tube 1
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep0...chiswick_s.jpgBased on a Chiswick Reach stereo valve compressor, serial number RMS0061.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifWasp 2 / Brit Classic Solid State 1
Based on a Drawmer DL221X, serial number 1008X.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifWasp 1 / Brit Classic Tube 1
Based on a Drawmer 1960 tube compressor, serial number 1002.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBig Blue A / US Modern Solid State 1A
Based on a Dbx 160S compressor/limiter, serial number 000004 (standard compression setting).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBig Blue B / US Modern Solid State 1B
Based on a Dbx 160S compressor/limiter, serial number 000004 (Over Easy compression setting).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifUS Radio / US Classic Solid State 1
Based on a Dbx 165 compressor/limiter, serial number 1821.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifCopy Cat / US Modern Copy Cat
Based on a Empirical Labs EL8 Distressor, serial number 1689.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifVintage / US Vintage Tube 1
Based on a Fairchild Model 670, serial number 530.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifFF ISA 130 / Focusrite Classic ISA 130
Based on a Focusrite ISA 130, serial number F00069T.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifFF Green 5 / Focusrite Green Channel Strip
Based on a Focusrite Green channel strip, serial number GO05116.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifFF Red 7 / Focusrite Classic Red 7
Based on a Focusrite Red 7, serial number FO6350T.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifDunk A / US Modern FET 1
Based on a Manley Slam!, serial number SLAM120 (FET limiter).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifDunk B/ US Modern Optical 1
Based on a Manley Slam! serial number SLAM120 (ELOP opto limiter).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifPrimitive / US Classic Tube 2
Based on a Manley stereo 'variable mu' compressor, serial number MSLC61536.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBig Green / Brit Classic Optical
Based on a Joemeek SC2 compressor, serial number 05-1038.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifNew Age 2E / US Modern Hybrid 2E
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep0...uidstt12_s.jpgBased on a Millennia STT1, serial number 0-161 (solid-state input, solid-state compressor settings).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifNew Age 2A / US Modern Hybrid 2A
Based on a Millennia STT1, serial number 0-161 (tube input, tube compressor settings).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifClass A 1 / Brit 70's Class A 1
Based on a Neve 2254/A dual/stereo compressor/limiter, serial number 5008K.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifClass A 2 / Brit 70's Class A 2
Based on a Neve 33609/B dual/stereo compressor/limiter, serial number 108.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBrit Desk 1 / Brit Classic Desk 1
Based on a Neve VR console compressor, serial number unknown.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifMeat Pie/ Brit 60's Class A
Based on a Pye 84 4060/01 compressor/limiter, serial number 60.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifGrinder A / Brit Modern Desk Copy A
Based on a Smart Research C2 buss compressor, serial number C217.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifGrinder B / Brit Modern Desk Copy B
Based on a Smart Research C2 buss compressor, serial number C217 (Crush setting).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifMix Buss / Brit Classic Buss
Based on an SSL FX G384 stereo compressor, serial number FX384-180.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBrit Desk 2 / Brit Classic Desk 2
Based on an SSL SL4000 G+ console compressor, serial number unknown.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBrit Desk 3 / Brit Modern Desk 1
Based on an SSL SL510 5000-series dynamics module, serial number unknown.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifAcme 1/ US Modern Tube 3
Based on a Summit DCL200 dual compressor/limiter, serial number 0721076.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifAcme 2/ US Modern Tube 4
Based on a Summit TLA100A tube levelling amplifier, serial number 0120429.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifLeveller / US Classic Tube 3
Based on a Teletronix LA2A valve compressor/limiter, serial number 00227 (silver face, pre-Harman).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBrit Tube / Brit Modern Tube 1
Based on a TL Audio C1 dual valve compressor, serial number 121739.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifViking 1 / Danish Classic Tube 1
Based on a Tube-Tech CL1B compressor, serial number 04150.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifViking 2 / Danish Classic Tube 2
Based on a Tube-Tech LCA 2B dual/stereo compressor/limiter, serial number 04010.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifStellar 1 / US Classic Solid State 1
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep0...iquidua2_s.jpgBased on a Universal Audio 1176LN (reissue) mono limiting amplifier, serial number 1394.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifStellar 2 / US Classic Solid State 2
Based on a Urei 1176LN mono limiting amplifier, serial number 11854 (silver face).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifStellar 3 / US Classic Solid State 3
Based on a Urei / Teletronix LA3A mono levelling amplifier, serial number 1584 (black face, 30dB switch setting on rear panel).
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifStellar 4 / US Classic Optical 1
Based on a Urei LA4 compressor/limiter, serial number 4832A (silver face).

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EQ Emulations
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifClass A 2 / Brit 70's Class A 2 EQ
Based on the four-band EQ section of a Neve 1073, serial number 1742.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifTrany 4 / US Classic Discrete 4 EQ
Based on an API 550B four-band EQ, serial number 02212.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifTrany 5 / US Classic Discrete 5 EQ
Based on an API 559 nine-band EQ, serial number AX-GP-02211.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifOld Tube 1 / US 60's Tube 1 EQ
Based on a Pultec EQP1 three/four-band EQ, serial number 1253.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifOld Tube 2 / US 60's Tube 2 EQ
Based on a Pultec MEQ5 three-band EQ, serial number 1742.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifPlatinum 1 / Focusrite Platinum Voice Master EQ
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep0...dvmaster_s.jpgBased on the five-band EQ featured on the original Focusrite Platinum unit, serial number P070110.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifISA 115 / Focusrite ISA 115 EQ
Based on a Focusrite ISA 115 six-band EQ.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifClas A 4 / Brit 60's Class A 3 EQ
Based on the three-band EQ section of a Neve 1058 channel strip, serial number 375.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifTrany 3 / US Classic Discrete 3 EQ
Based on an API 550A four-band EQ, serial number 3855.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifSilver 3 / US Modern Hybrid 3 EQ
Based on an Avalon VT747SP six-band EQ, serial number 27093.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifOld Tube 3 / US 60's Tube 3 EQ
Based on a Pultec EQH2 three/four-band EQ, serial number 6140.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifVintage 3 / US Clasic Discrete 4 EQ
Based on an EAR 822Q three/four-band EQ, serial number TH82.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBrit Desk 4 / Brit Modern Desk 4 EQ
Based on the six-band EQ section of a single module from an SSL E-series desk.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBrit Desk 5 / Brit Modern Desk 5 EQ
Based on the six-band EQ section of a single module from an SSL G-series desk.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifHuge Tube / US Modern Tube 6 EQ
Based on a Manley Massive Passive six-band EQ, serial number MSMPX1100.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifBrit Desk 6 / Brit 80's Classic Desk 1 EQ
Based on the six-band EQ section of a single channel from an Amek Angela console, serial number 01314.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifSilver 2 / US Modern Tube 1 EQ
Based on the five-band EQ of an Avalon VT737SP channel, serial number 12545.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifSilver 4 / US Modern Tube 1 EQ
Based on the four-band EQ of an Avalon 2055, serial number 10747.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifPlatinum 2 / Focusrite Platinum Bass Factory EQ
Based on the seven-band EQ featured on the Japanese-only Platinum Bass Factory, serial number P060929.
http://www.soundonsound.com/images/pcsBullet.gifZebra 2 / US Zebra Discrete Desk Copy EQ
Based on the Chandler Limited EMI Passive TG Abbey Road.

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20 %:)

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60 %

Carevo novo odelo :)