Novi Moog Voyager i Little Phatty II

[redroom]

via Matrixsynth (http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/) (a ko bi drugi!:) )

Moog Music has prepared two surprises for the NAMM show that is about to take place, first is the new Multi-Pedal MP-201. It is based on the EP-2; work with HP and MIDI (standard and USB). You can control up to four Moogerfoogers at once. It has four independent LFOs and sincronizables and four control outputs.
The second surprise may like the fans of sintes: the new release "Old School" of the Minimoog Voyager. This is a cut Voyager, in fact: they have left the analog system, eliminating all digital controls (pure "old school").
The Minimoog Voyager OS (Old School) will be the engine sound analog Voyager original, but without digital controls. It caters to a segment of musicians of a certain age who simply want something to replace its Model D, and for young musicians who want a minimalist approach to his musical creativity. The classic design and capabilities HP expanded doing interesting couple users sintes modular.

The price of around $ 2,400, somewhere between the cost of a Little Phatty Voyager and a complete, and will be available in March 2008.i jos:


"I just saw that Future Music February UK edition has details of three interesting Moog items:- a Little Phatty II with arpeggiator and USB; a retro Voyager with no MIDI, presets, or touchscreen but 'enhanced modulation', different knob layout, and a lower price; and the MP-201 pedal - USB, MIDI, and four CV outputs."Naravno, jos nista o ovome na Moog siteu, sve spremaju za sutrasnje otvaranje NAMM showa, a onda ce lavina fotki i videa po netu :wink:
Jedva cekam!

[redroom]

MP-201
http://www.nonamenofame.net/MP1_front_w_midiled.jpg

[sare]

The price of around $ 2,400, somewhere between the cost of a Little Phatty Voyager and a complete, and will be available in March 2008.

Ako usporedim cene Voyagera u Americi i Thomanna u Njemackoj onda
2400$ za Voyagera Old School znaci tamo negdje 2400 eura kod Thomanna - a to bi bilo samo 500 eura manje od original voyagera.

Bas me zanima ako, ce biti sound potpuno isti - nisam siguran zasto bi ova verzija uopste zvucila drugcije, just my little wish - ako zvuci vise ala vintage moogs od original voyagera, onda platim i 2400 eura!

[redroom]

Evo ga, na Moog (http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=21107)siteu prva se pojavila pedala MP-201. Cijena jos nije navedena.


MP-201 Multi-Pedal

The Multi-Pedal is a programmable four channel CV/MIDI foot pedal controller. It has four analog control outputs, MIDI In & Out and USB connectivity (MIDI over USB). It can transmit controller information on up to 4 MIDI channels and CV outputs simultaneously.

Each CV output can be programmed individually. Signals can be foot pedal controlled analog control voltages with +/-5V limits, LFO waveforms or GATE voltages (0V=Off,+5V=ON). In addition, each channel can output MIDI CC?s over specified MIDI channels simultaneously with the analog CV outputs.

$0.00 in US dollars.

Output Signals:

- LFO of user programmed RATE, AMOUNT and WAVEFORM (triangle, square, sawtooth, ramp and sample & hold)
- A random NOISE CV
- The footpedal voltage with user selected heel and toe voltages (including reverse action)
- Preset Voltage levels
- LFO signals are scalable and can be synced to MIDI clock, tap tempo, each other, or free-running.

There are five modes of operation:

Single Channel Mode, Quad Channel Mode, Preset Mode, Edit Mode, and Utilities Mode.

Single Channel Mode uses the footswitches to select programs, channels, turn on/off channels, select tap tempo function, enter tap tempo.

Quad Channel Mode turns channels 1-4 on/off with footswitches 1-4 and uses the footpedal as an expression pedal for channels 1 to 4 simultaneously.

Preset Mode defines the user programmable presets. A collection of 4 programmed channels is a preset and there are 100 editable presets.

Edit Mode programs the preset mode.

Utilities Mode accesses the utilities menu for non-preset related functions (SysEx Dump, Upgrade firmware, Factory Restore, Footpedal Calibration, etc?)

Multipedal Control Elements:

Optical ?Gas Pedal? style foot controller

4 footswitches (momentary)

4 LEDs, 1 for each footswitch.16x2 character LCD (Gray Background, transflective, white LED

backlight)

Rotary Encoder with push switch (VALUE, CURSOR)

2 Momentary switches near LCD / Encoder (EDIT, STORE)

Rear Panel Connections:

USB Port (MIDI over USB)

MIDI In, MIDI Out DIN connectors

4 x CV Out ?? TRS connectors (-5V to 5V & 0V to 5V options)

Power in (wall mount power supply included)

[redroom]

Mozda je neko palio Photoshop, a mozda ovo i nije fake (via forum.musicplayer.com, kliknite na sliku i skrolajte do dna prve stranice)

http://www.nonamenofame.net/voyager_os1.jpg (http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1872772)

[redroom]

Procurila jos jedna fotka :)
http://www.nonamenofame.net/Voyager_Old_School.jpg

[milos]

Nema cak ni midi :shock:

[redroom]

Zato ga i zovu Voyager Old School :wink:
Volio bi da se to odnosi i na sound

[clusterchord]

Zato ga i zovu Voyager Old School :wink:
Volio bi da se to odnosi i na sound

cisto sumnjam da su ista mjenjali od analognog hardvera unutra. pretpostavljam isti (pomalo neuzbudljivi) zvuk voyagera. promjene dizajana i sklopova bi zahtjevale posebni R&D , odn. u prevodu jos $$$$ za malu firmu poput moogmusic , a zasto kad ovako imaju "nov" produkt samo s prepakiranjem. to svi odavno rade u digitaliji, a odnedavno DSI i MOOG u analogiji...

ja bi svoje pare kladio na to da ce prije novi Macbeth, X Factor, zvucati ko stari mini nego ovo. ali vidicemo..

svidja mi se ideja voyagera os, ali osnovni midi su ipak trebali staviti. to je malo kratkovidno. vecina ljudi koji danas ima old school sprave, ionako koristi midi-cv konvertere. daklem samo su te prisilili da posebno dajes pare Kentonu za ono sto je vec trebalo bit gore.. glupost.

[redroom]

fakat su mogli ostavit MIDI

[relis]

Ma daj, cemu sve te rupe odostraga? Neki skazi, kontroleri i to, sto je tu old-school!?Sve to maknuti, ostaviti mono izlaz, mono ulaz i midi in. To bi ja. Ovo mi je ni-v-rit-ni-mimo.

[redroom]

3-minutni Sonic State (http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5944) video
Chris Stack iz Moog Music predstavlja Voager Old School na Namm 2008.
Prica tako da imas dojam ko da i sam bas ne vjeruje u to sta prica :rolleyes:
To sta nema MIDI je zbilja losa vijest (da ne kazem p*zdarija), a dobra vijest bi trebala bit ta da ima nesto vise opcija u Modulation Busses sekciji.
Pa ko voli...
Little Phatty II jos ne spominju.

[lesha]

Chris Stack iz Moog Music predstavlja Voager Old School na Namm 2008.
Prica tako da imas dojam ko da i sam bas ne vjeruje u to sta prica :rolleyes:
ili ponavlja pricu po stoti put pa se smorio decko :D

[redroom]

MP-201 Multi Pedal rear view (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2201486644&context=set-72157603745786159&size=l)

[silicon science]

ili ponavlja pricu po stoti put pa se smorio decko :D

Otish'o je chicha... Ova stara skola od novog Mooga ima "diskreciju" u sebi. Ne znam da li je i nju skul Voyager isti iznutra? Ako je to, onda...

[clusterchord]

Ma daj, cemu sve te rupe odostraga? Neki skazi, kontroleri i to, sto je tu old-school!?Sve to maknuti, ostaviti mono izlaz, mono ulaz i midi in. To bi ja. Ovo mi je ni-v-rit-ni-mimo.

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

sine to su ulazi i izlazi za CV kontrolu pojedinih parametara od sinta, da ih mozes modulirati drugim CV odn "old school" spravama poput modulara itd.. i hrpa audio ulaza i izlaza prije/poslije filtera , vca itd...

misli MS-20.. samo sa nesto opcija..odnosno patch pointova.


to sto zoves SCSI je samo multi pin konektor za spajajnje VX351 i slicnih CV expandera, znaci jos vise CV i/o.. dodatni analog LFO, S/H itd itd..

voyager sa oba expandera postaje solidan modularni sistem. ili baza modularnog sistema koji kasnije siris s modulima drugih proizvodjaca..

glavno da imas standard +/-5V za CV i audio signal, i 1V po oktavi za visinu tona . sve ce radit zajedno.


ukratko ovdje je sve old school barem izvana. sto su radili na VCOovima da zvuce toliko mrtvije od starih moogova to neznam.. ali voyageri sigurno nisu
potpuno diskretni, slike iznutra pokazuju kile i kile IC-ova..

[relis]

Cluster, pa nisam bas takav bukvan da, iz teorije, otprilike neznam cemu to sluzi. Al sve mi je to nategnuto malo. Usko trziste. Vidjet cemo...

[clusterchord]

Cluster, pa nisam bas takav bukvan da,

pa nisam rekao da si bukvan ali pitao jesi "sto je tu old school?"

ja ti odgovaram, sve to na njemu je old school.


znas pocetak biblije.. "prvo bijase CV.." :D




btw, mrzim izraz "old school" i "new school".. tako je hebeno marketinski sladunjav. uvijek ti proizvodjaci forsiraju te neke kao cool izraze.. ne bi li se priblizili sirim masama.. bljuvv

[relis]

Imas pravo. Moja greska sto uopce nisam gledao sto je to sve odostraga.

[redroom]

Iza?ao Little Phatty? Stage II (http://www.moogmusic.com/detail.php?main_product_id=21113)

http://bp3.blogger.com/_FMBJEkaC8Lw/R-B188Ea9QI/AAAAAAAAQy8/QNnYV8a5lWM/s1600-h/lp_ii_side.jpgMoog Music is proud to introduce the newest member
of the Little Phatty family... the Little Phatty Stage II.
Like the Stage and Tribute Edition before it, the
Little Phatty Stage II has the same features and sound
engine, designed by Moog founder and inventor, Bob Moog.

Additionally, the Stage II boasts great new features like...

MIDI over USB

MIDI Clock Sync

An Easy-To-Use Arpeggiator

and a sleek new black finish.

$1375.00 in US dollars.

[clusterchord]

isti k*rac

[roginator]

s obzirom da imam kolicinu moogova....

meni rme zvuci odlicno ... ali da je skup i to je istina....
a ova nova old school varijanta je K od ovce...ko danas ima para kupit ce pravog minija ili RMe ako ga zeli za to sto on radi bolje od minija....

volim sound oba...puno se tu filozofira a iskreno neznam puno ljudi koji ga umaju i sviraju na njemu, rade soundove....

a tu pada old school..nema midi nemozes apsolutno u doba digitalije s njime nista !!! jasno mi je za minimooga on je iz 1978...a di im je bila pamet za old school...i oda koja cifra ...po mni takav old school ne vredi vise od 1200$

eto...da se i ja nadodam

[redroom]

roginator, kad smo vec kod rme poslao sam ti pm u vezi njega
ajd pa javi kad stignes
poz.

[Don Solaris]

isti k*rac

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:



:dance:

[Don Solaris]

Eh da. Svirao sam Voyager OS prije tri tjedna. Jedno cca. sat vremena.

Utisci: Vidi quote iznad.

[clusterchord]

Novi Moog Voyager i Little Phatty II..


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[roginator]

http://s14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/Journeyrob/th_givafukometer.gif

tak je!!!!

[Joyba]

auuu al ste surovi, pa sta cemo za koju deceniju kad pocrkaju svi vintage :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[roginator]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:



:dance:

ne se zezat

moy rme pohebe 99% tvojih zvijeri u basu,,,a sta sve moze ne mozes cuti u 2 sata...ja ga nedam nizasta!!!!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
:lick: :lick: :lick:

[roginator]

auuu al ste surovi, pa sta cemo za koju deceniju kad pocrkaju svi vintage :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

hehe za koju deceniju ko ziv a ko mrtav...

ALI

recimo clustechord i ja imam mali vagon rezervnih CEM, SSM, Ua i ostalih tesko nalazljivih dijelova za jedno 5 decenija minimum , a onda smo mrtvi ko ga vise hebe :D :D :D :D

[milos]

auuu al ste surovi, pa sta cemo za koju deceniju kad pocrkaju svi vintage :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Bice i dalje modulara koliko hoces za retro uzitak :D :rotfl:

[Don Solaris]

ne se zezat

moy rme pohebe 99% tvojih zvijeri u basu,,,a sta sve moze ne mozes cuti u 2 sata...ja ga nedam nizasta!!!!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
:lick: :lick: :lick:


A ako uzmem Prodigy?

:wave:

[alavuk]

i bre kakva prezentacija hahahaha pa dobio bi otkaz da je bob moog ziv , vise je pricao nego sto je svirao za razliku od kolega sa waldorf blofeld standa ,a i onaj zvuk dobijem sa onim free vstI plug inom ako ne i bolji (znam dobro sta pricam) ... nadam se da ste ga isprobali do sad i znate koji plug in je pitanju ...