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veseli koljac
22-02-2005, 12:01 PM
http://www.museresearch.com/kvr/i/s/minimonsta.jpg

ko hoce da proba demo...
http://www.ohmforce.com/gforce/bin/Minimonsta100_demo.exe

50 mb Quicktime video...
http://209.97.205.133/~gmediaa/downloads/Minimonsta.mov

puRe
22-02-2005, 12:17 PM
cuo sam da zvuci fantasticno.......mada mi je vise dosta emulacija analogije (pogotovu minimooga)...

mirzaa
22-02-2005, 12:59 PM
nikad dosta analogije.
nema do starog dobrog steinbergovog e-model.a
i arturia je napravila preeedobar minimoogV.
ovog nisam probo ali svakako o?u.
hvala na linku.

lesha
22-02-2005, 02:07 PM
prema recenzijama koje sam procitao sve te artutijine emulacije ne mogu da primirisu pravim spravama....

mirzaa
22-02-2005, 02:20 PM
a di si ?ito?
sve recenzije koje sam pro?ito podosta hvale. pogotovo minimoog i moogmodular :roll:

lesha
23-02-2005, 03:19 AM
u martovskom broju SOS-a imas clanak o arturia minimoog-u V. evo isecka...
Given the number of differences I've flagged between the Minimoog and Minimoog V, I expected the two instruments to sound very different from one another. Yet, creating simple patches on both, using a single sawtooth wave and fine-tuning the controls to be as close to one another as possible, I found the sound from the software synth to be surprisingly authentic. Moreover, in blind tests that I carried out on two knowledgeable friends, both could hear that there were two instruments present, but neither could reliably identify which was the 30-year-old lump of wood and circuitry, and which was the software emulation.

But the more I introduced filter resonance, the easier it became to distinguish between them. If I then used different waveforms or introduced multiple oscillators, it became simple to identify which synth was which. And when I stopped playing individual notes in isolation, and started to play riffs and melodies, the incorrect envelope generation of Minimoog V made it obvious which was which.

This was when I also started to notice that the timbre would jump slightly after every handful of notes played. Playing rapidly with the Detune knob (ie.drift) set to zero, and while watching the waveform on an oscilloscope, I could see that the relative phases of the oscillators would occasionally jump from one state to another. As expected, there was no change when I held a single note indefinitely, just a quantised jump after a bunch of notes were played. This makes soloing an odd experience, and may be even more disconcerting for players who use their Minimoogs primarily for bass work. I also noticed Minimoog V generating random clicks when I played quickly with instantaneous (ie. Attack = 0, Decay = 0) envelopes. These are not the Attack On and Release Off clicks of the original synth, but digital clicks generated in the software as it fails to handle the rapid envelope settings.

All in all, I have to report that, judged as an emulation of the real thing, Minimoog V is a disappointment. How could I conclude otherwise? Despite sounding very good at times ? indeed, rather Moog-like at times ? its oscillators, mixer, filter and envelopes all behave in a significantly different manner from those of the original. Sure, it looks like a representation of a Minimoog, and it has a very likeable character ? big and imposing. Nevertheless, generally speaking, Minimoog V doesn't respond to my playing as a real Minimoog does.

So what if we ignore the pretty picture on the screen, and judge Minimoog V as a synth in its own right? The inaccuracies in the emulation are then irrelevant. Considered like this, what we have is a fat-sounding, interesting, and sonically imposing synthesizer that can sound excellent, albeit with a couple of operational quirks and bugs that need correcting.

sto se tice minimonsta-e, na prvo slusanje mi se svideo njegov zvuk...
sutra opsirnije..

Everbeatz
23-02-2005, 03:30 AM
Dobra je ova spravica....ludi preseti, opcija poprilicno, sve u svemu ostavlja dobar utisak

milos
23-02-2005, 10:20 AM
Downloadovao sam demo Minimonsta :D Super zvuci-cak sam izabrao par patcheva koje sam nastelovao i na Minimoog v-imaju slican zvuk,ali ipak razlicit(i ne mogu da kazem koji je blizi pravom miniju posto ga nemam da sve to lepo uporedimo).Nekako mi se vise svidja Minimonsta-pogotovo unison mode (kod Minimooga v a narocito kod Modulara unison mode vec posle 3,4 voicea krchi)kod Minimonsta se bas dobije fat sound efekat.Takodje ovaj Melohman morphing je odlicna stvar(tako jednostavno i intuitivno)-takodje mi se svidja sto se svi parametri mogu modulisati LFO-om i
Patchevi su dobri ,ali verujem da ce najbolji biti oni koji napravite sami :D
Meni si vise svidja od Minimooga v-ajde jos neko ko ima Minimooga v i demo od MInimonsta neka kaze svoje misljenje :wink:

lesha
23-02-2005, 12:20 PM
na drugo (glasno) slusanje - odlicno zvuci.
filter je fenomenalan... po mom misljenju, veoma upotrebljiv synth..

jedino sto poneki patch przi cpu, ali nista toliko strasno...
sve u svemu, cudovistance je cool :wink:

milos
23-02-2005, 12:43 PM
Poredjenje Minimooga v i Minimonsta:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/kurreltheraven/343732.html#cutid1

lesha
23-02-2005, 05:12 PM
milose, hvala na linku..
review je odlican :)

milos
23-02-2005, 09:04 PM
Nema na cemu,slucajno sam nasao link kad sam u google ukucao gmedia minimonsta :D .
Ma velika se prasina digla oko ovoga plugina(ljudi se sada dvoume izmedju minimooga v i minimonsta koji je bolji-jer treba to i platiti :D :P)
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76380&start=0&sid=33cde7c573feb20c 1d776de7655311d7
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76360&start=0&sid=33cde7c573feb20c 1d776de7655311d7
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76613&sid=33cde7c573feb20c1d776de7 655311d7

lesha
23-02-2005, 11:02 PM
pratim raspravu na kvr-u od pocetka, ali ne uzimajuci arturiu uopste u obzir, minimonsta mi se veoma svidja.... :D